Estrada vs Segura is being overshadowed!

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  • UTEP
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    #21
    Great fights coming up this weekend.


    WAR ESTRADA!

    WAR MATTHYSSE!

    WAR TAYLOR!

    WAR WLAD!

    WAR BABY BULL!

    WAR NAVA!

    WAR KIKO!


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    • SCtrojansbaby
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      #22
      If Segura is at full health Estrada won't be able to out box him. Segura's will force him to slug it out and Estrada won'ty be able to keep up.

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      • Aztekkas
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        #23
        Originally posted by SCtrojansbaby
        If Segura is at full health Estrada won't be able to out box him. Segura's will force him to slug it out and Estrada won'ty be able to keep up.
        Red K'd from you because I posted some decent points against Segura? Whom just happens to be in your top 10? Lol. I'm a huge fan of Segura but I know he is a very limited fighter. He forces brawls on men whom happen to be much weaker or are limited as well. When he faces men whom actually show movement and boxing IQ he breaks apart. Tell me, how exactly will he force a brawl?

        His only shot at winning is, if you know anything from either fighter, to beat Estrada down early. Estrada is a slow starter and Segura is known to throw everything he has from bell to bell so he should go for the early knockout. Once Estrada gets into his rhythm come mid to late rounds he is damn near immaculate.

        Next time watch some tapes of Estrada, when has anyone forced him to slug it out? He remains composed and executes his game plan.

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        • Public_Enemy
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          #24
          Originally posted by Aztekkas
          I don't see any of those happening. Estrada has movement and power, those together will always beat Segura. Ivan Calderon had the movement and skill but no power, Marquez had the firepower but not the skill and Brian as well as Sosa had both and they both beat him… not mentioning the fact that Estrada is much better than anyone Segura has fought. If Chocolatito couldn't put him away, whom has faster more compact punches, I doubt those barbaric, looping punches from Segura would surprise Estrada.

          Move up? I doubt it. He will most likely go after the Yaegashi vs Gonzalez winner. He has unfinished business with Chocolatito and this time JFE won't have to drop to a weight he has never fought in before, he will be at a comfortable weight in which he got crowned.

          Estrada by wide UD or possible stoppage in the late rounds.
          Bingo! That's how I see it.

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          • SCtrojansbaby
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            #25
            Originally posted by Aztekkas
            Red K'd from you because I posted some decent points against Segura? Whom just happens to be in your top 10? Lol. I'm a huge fan of Segura but I know he is a very limited fighter. He forces brawls on men whom happen to be much weaker or are limited as well. When he faces men whom actually show movement and boxing IQ he breaks apart. Tell me, how exactly will he force a brawl?

            His only shot at winning is, if you know anything from either fighter, to beat Estrada down early. Estrada is a slow starter and Segura is known to throw everything he has from bell to bell so he should go for the early knockout. Once Estrada gets into his rhythm come mid to late rounds he is damn near immaculate.

            Next time watch some tapes of Estrada, when has anyone forced him to slug it out? He remains composed and executes his game plan.
            Decent points?
            I'll be watching ma boy AB doe.
            That is why I negged you.

            Estrada has never been in a war because he's never fought anyone with Segura's punch output. Oh and Ivan Calderon has elite movement and boxing IQ, Segura still forced him in to his fight. The Puerto Rican kid he fought had very good movement and IQ also but Segura still forced him in to his fight.

            The longer the fight goes the more Segura's experience will take over. Estrada's best shot is to cut Segura and/or close one of his eyes.

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            • Aztekkas
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              #26
              Originally posted by SCtrojansbaby
              Decent points?That is why I negged you.

              Estrada has never been in a war because he's never fought anyone with Segura's punch output. Oh and Ivan Calderon has elite movement and boxing IQ, Segura still forced him in to his fight. The Puerto Rican kid he fought had very good movement and IQ also but Segura still forced him in to his fight.

              The longer the fight goes the more Segura's experience will take over. Estrada's best shot is to cut Segura and/or close one of his eyes.


              La Bomba was green, we all know this. Segura ruined him and he was far from technical in his approach. He tried to out bomb a fighter whom many thought was done after taking a loss and got outgunned by the vet. Ivan had no power and was much smaller, he couldn't keep Segura off of him if his life depended on it. Segura has a granite chin, even after an atrocious lump against Viloria he was still attempting to push through, how would Calderon ever be able to keep that monster off of him with no power? Of course he broke down, he could only do so much when the punches you throw are less effective than the ones you receive.

              Segura and Viloria outboxed him and they weren't forced to slug it out. Marquez was doing great but he always throws his game plan out the window and ends up slugging it out. In spanish we have a term for Segura, "el tira piedras" which means the "Rock Slinger" because he throws monstrous power punches, but he is far too slow with his approach to surprise anyone with decent skill. Estrada will put a beating on him unless Segura stops him early, no way someone as talented as Estrada will allow himself to get grinded down, especially seeing as how Estrada's power and skill go on full display in the later rounds.

              Anyway that AB post was a joke, lol.

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                #27
                I think it's going to be a war for the first 7 or 8 rounds, after that Estrada gonna start taking over and get the late round stoppage

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