Guillermo Rigondeaux deserves to be higher than Andre Ward P4P

[Kagami Taiga]

He knocked off a p4p guy at Radio City Music Hall in his what, 12th fight?

Rigos defense> Floyd's defense.

Floyd just gets beat up by C level fighters along the ropes

Hah u mean the same rigondeaux that got dropped by a c level fighter in marroquin? It's really not that hard of a game to play.

[The Hammer]

Do we really need another tunney "pit fans against ward" thread because he realized NSB thinks ward will beat GGG and because Ward earned his spot by beating everyone he faced.

If the rules were enforced by honest referees, Ward would have several losses on his record.

Without his deliberate head butts and clamping his opponents arms, Ward wouldn't be any good.

Why do you disapprove of Klitschko's clinching, while so strongly support Ward who not only clinches, but uses far dirtier tactic than Wlad with deliberate head butts, clamping his opponents arm, hitting off the break, rabbit punching, hitting while holding, etc?

[Loque-san]

Hah u mean the same rigondeaux that got dropped by a c level fighter in marroquin? It's really not that hard of a game to play.

Apparently it is, because Marroquin did not drop him...

[NEETzsche]

He knocked off a p4p guy at Radio City Music Hall in his what, 12th fight?

Rigos defense> Floyd's defense.

Floyd just gets beat up by C level fighters along the ropes

floyd can fight like that and win because he's tough. rigondeaux is more prone to being dropped.

[Kagami Taiga]

Apparently it is, because Marroquin did not drop him...

That's right, marroquin only stunned him, Cordoba dropped him. Another c level fighter. Point remains the same.

[Beercules]

Hah u mean the same rigondeaux that got dropped by a c level fighter in marroquin? It's really not that hard of a game to play.

Wasn't Floyd dropped by Zab Judah

[The Big Dunn]

If the rules were enforced by honest referees, Ward would have several losses on his record.

Without his deliberate head butts and clamping his opponents arms, Ward wouldn't be any good.

Why do you disapprove of Klitschko's clinching, while so strongly support Ward who not only clinches, but uses far dirtier tactic than Wlad with deliberate head butts, clamping his opponents arm, hitting off the break, rabbit punching, hitting while holding, etc?

I don't disapprove of wlad's clinching, I disapprove of wlad. I don't kill him for holding because I have turned the channel by the time he really gets his grab on.

As for ward, I don't celebrate anything he does. I just come into your, sllimshandy, battling nelson and the rest of his detractors hate threads to make sure there is some balance and honesty regarding his career and accomplishments.

The answer is no, rigo's 14 fight career including a win over Donaire does not place him above Ward.

[Kagami Taiga]

Wasn't Floyd dropped by Zab Judah

He wasn't hurt by Zab Judah, he was beat to the punch while off balance totally different circumstances. Zab Judah is still a better fighter than Cordoba.

[Beercules]

He wasn't hurt by Zab Judah, he was beat to the punch while off balance totally different circumstances. Zab Judah is still a better fighter than Cordoba.

[Kagami Taiga]

I bet it's funny. Rigondeaux is an amazing fighter. But Dont talk about someone getting beat up by c level fighters and ignore how sloppy he's looked against lesser opposition. And besides Donaire, rigondeaux's whole resume is full of lesser opposition.