Kryptonite for current top (PPV) boxers

**jas** · 08-06-2014, 05:19 PM

So basically you've described Marquez for PAC

Maidana for floyd

Floyd for Canelo

Pacquaio for cotto

**Strategic1** · 08-06-2014, 05:22 PM

Well Maidana didn't beat Floyd. But he brought some interesting tactics that one would think would help to beat Floyd.

Pressuring him inside, getting him uncomfortable, even some rough stuff... can get Floyd in a vulnerable position.

**The Problem Child** · 08-06-2014, 05:24 PM

Pretty nice thread, a refreshing topic at least.

You hit the head on the nail pretty much.

Marquez: Defensive oriented fighters with good technique.

**Dinamita 03** · 08-06-2014, 05:29 PM

The kryptonite you added for each fighter would trouble any fighter. Speed, angles, reflexes, accurate counters, and IQ.

**daggum** · 08-06-2014, 05:29 PM

andre ward's kryptonite is thinking he's a ppv boxer when he's not

**Strategic1** · 08-06-2014, 05:34 PM

Originally posted by Dinamita 03

The kryptonite you added for each fighter would trouble any fighter. Speed, angles, reflexes, accurate counters, and IQ.

You are right to some extent. But I think we can get more technical if you really try to pinpoint a boxer's weakness.

We can mention certain tendencies in fighters and the solution to exploit them.

**ElMeroChingon** · 08-06-2014, 05:56 PM

FloydMayweather----------Punchers Gloves.

"Tey aint got no padding in dem gloves, thats why people iz deying everywhere"

**Strategic1** · 08-06-2014, 05:59 PM

Originally posted by Golovkin

Pretty nice thread, a refreshing topic at least.

You hit the head on the nail pretty much.

Marquez: Defensive oriented fighters with good technique.

For JMM, we could also say PAC's attributes are his kryptonite too. JMM hasn't lost much in his career after all.

In the first 3 fights, they were very close. There were cases for both fighters.

**djt117** · 08-06-2014, 06:58 PM

Originally posted by Strategic1

Kryptonite for today's top (PPV) boxers

Pacquiao: high IQ, accurate counterpunching, strong overhand right, power to keep PAC more tentative than usual

Floyd: (nothing proven yet but 2009 PAC would have given him problems). Volume punching, Outworking Floyd, Awkward angles, Unpredictable offensive attack (Floyd relies on his IQ to read his opponents)
A boxer with superb offensive skills boxing from all angles, would be more difficult to deal with. Left handed fighter would also create something different for Floyd's shoulder roll defence.

Canelo: SPEED, boxer with defensive reflexes, movement

Cotto: SPEED, angles, awkward movement

If you like, you can add other boxers. Styles make fights. Some fighters just have the style and skill set to give some fighters problems.

The stuff you said re: Floyd, you forgot to mention "someone with the handspeed and footspeed to match him".

Floyd feasts on these slow-footed, slow-handed, come-forward Latino plodders and the only measure of intrigue in these fights are that some of them can punch ...

... but (1) they still have to hit Floyd clean on the chin, and they're usually too slow to do so, (2) even if they do connect flush, right on the button, once or twice in the fight ... Floyd has an ATG chin so he can take it, (3) Floyd uses his A-side negotiating power to mitigate the one modicum of a chance (puncher's chance) that these opponents have (i.e., Maidana can't wear Everlast MX or Reyes horsehair "punchers gloves")

This remark is gonna get some hate but there is only two guys from 140 to 154 that could trouble Floyd. One is Thurman but I don't know if he can get the fights he needs to position himself as a Floyd opponent before Floyd retires.

The other guy is obviously Amir Khan. Speed, volume, reach, and a great jab. It's very, very hard to win rounds vs. Khan. Sure he has a weak chin but Floyd ain't a big hitter at 147 so I think it's doubtful that would be a factor. It's honestly the only Floyd fight (which actually stands a chance of happening) that I'd truly be interested in watching at this point

Kryptonite for current top (PPV) boxers