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  • hectari
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    #41
    Originally posted by SeekDaGreat
    Who in there right mind honestly think Algieri is going to outbox Pacquiao. That is what you have to ask yourself, honestly.
    A realist does, study the fights and don't get blinded by name value an superstar status.

    Pac is well passed his prime, his body has taken beatings, he is worn down. Algieir is fresh, fast, mobile, and younger.

    Watch the Pac Mosley fight, Pac has trouble with guys who constantly move or run away. He can't cut off the ring well, he even stopped and wanted Shane to fight him.

    Algieri will box circles around Pac, I have no problem with this fight only problem is it being on PPV but stylistically its interesting becasue its a style nightmare for Pac, Chris moves he is not there to be hit like Maidana or Rios or Margarito. He earned it. Chris was being laughed at when before teh Ruslan fight he proved people wrong.

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    • IMDAZED
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      #42
      Really not that hard to see.

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      • Fangedgrowl
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        #43
        Really Hectari? Pac is not well past his prime. He is passed it alittle but he is not shop worn. I have told all you before this fight will look similar to the clottey fight. This guy will get hit and run or go into a shell and stink it up. Only thing is Algeri is not near as big as Clottey and he runs a little more. It will be a little more competitive. Pac will overwhelm him with foot speed and angles. Also watch the body punches this could be the difference.

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        • KRITKL
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          #44
          Originally posted by Reloaded
          He has supposed to be going to KO everybody he fights , he has supposed to have been in the best camps of his career , the thing that stands out in all this Manny the destroyer routine is that as soon as fighters come not drained but strong the stoppages stopped , Algieri is not in this class I think Manny will get his first stoppage that he is supposed to get ,, thats got to be worth a special belt .
          What?...
          You would think after JMM finally got a win against Pac, you'd be less whiny.

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          • hectari
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            #45
            Originally posted by Fangedgrowl
            Really Hectari? Pac is not well past his prime. He is passed it alittle but he is not shop worn. I have told all you before this fight will look similar to the clottey fight. This guy will get hit and run or go into a shell and stink it up. Only thing is Algeri is not near as big as Clottey and he runs a little more. It will be a little more competitive. Pac will overwhelm him with foot speed and angles. Also watch the body punches this could be the difference.
            I think you have been living under a rock, Pacman no longer has the foot and hand speed he did in 2009. Let me bring you back to 2014...newsflash...Pacman has been knocked out cold.

            Also Chris is big, he is 5 foot 11 tall and lanky with fast feet, and he doesn't fight like Clottey lol, Chris doesn't use the double guard at all so you lost credibility with the comment he will cover up like Clottey, he will run and move all night that is his game, run and jab similar to how Mosley fought Pacman.

            Pac legs cramped up big time in that fight he couldn't chase him.

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            • SeekDaGreat
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              #46
              Originally posted by hectari
              A realist does, study the fights and don't get blinded by name value an superstar status.

              Pac is well passed his prime, his body has taken beatings, he is worn down. Algieir is fresh, fast, mobile, and younger.

              Watch the Pac Mosley fight, Pac has trouble with guys who constantly move or run away. He can't cut off the ring well, he even stopped and wanted Shane to fight him.

              Algieri will box circles around Pac, I have no problem with this fight only problem is it being on PPV but stylistically its interesting becasue its a style nightmare for Pac, Chris moves he is not there to be hit like Maidana or Rios or Margarito. He earned it. Chris was being laughed at when before teh Ruslan fight he proved people wrong.
              You're reaching because you're assuming Pac is going to altered by some of the things you mentioned like his previous wars, age, etc. If you just take a step back and look at skill for skill Pac kills him. Algieris only chance is if You factor all those things that you said in and they all seem to effect him on that night, which is not a guarantee.

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              • Bronx2245
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                #47
                Originally posted by hectari
                A realist does, study the fights and don't get blinded by name value an superstar status.

                Pac is well passed his prime, his body has taken beatings, he is worn down. Algieir is fresh, fast, mobile, and younger.

                Watch the Pac Mosley fight, Pac has trouble with guys who constantly move or run away. He can't cut off the ring well, he even stopped and wanted Shane to fight him.

                Algieri will box circles around Pac, I have no problem with this fight only problem is it being on PPV but stylistically its interesting becasue its a style nightmare for Pac, Chris moves he is not there to be hit like Maidana or Rios or Margarito. He earned it. Chris was being laughed at when before teh Ruslan fight he proved people wrong.
                Algeri barely beat Ruslan (while running for his life). I don't know who you saw Algeri fighting other than Ruslan, that makes you feel so confident in his abilities. The talent level Algeri faced is nowhere near elite, and Pac is still an elite fighter. Anything can happen in the ring, but to say Algeri gives Pac problems is disrespectful. If you're right, then this should be Manny's last fight.

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                • hectari
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                  #48
                  Originally posted by SeekDaGreat
                  You're reaching because you're assuming Pac is going to altered by some of the things you mentioned like his previous wars, age, etc. If you just take a step back and look at skill for skill Pac kills him. Algieris only chance is if You factor all those things that you said in and they all seem to effect him on that night, which is not a guarantee.
                  Skill for Skill Pac wins on paper, but intangibles come into play.

                  For example, height, reach, and chin.

                  Chris has the height, and reach, and has the chin advantage.

                  Pacman might hit harder, but he doesn't have the same speed either. So Chris will have the speed advantage. Pacman also doesn't have the same stamina he used to, and Chris has stamina for days.

                  It will be very hard for Pacman to reach chris, this is how JMM is able to knock him out, Pacman jumps in flailing his punches when he fights guys who move back a lot and leaves himself open.

                  When a guy stands still in front of him Pacman looks amazing, he turns and counters and boxes amazing, like with Diaz, De La Hoya and Rios he was putting on a masterful display of offensive boxing hit and not get hit with well timed offensive aggression.

                  But the moment a guy moves back a lot he will lunge in. He seems to always want action, and gets bored. If you dont bring the fight to Pac he starts chasing you and reaching for his shots.

                  Stylistically you have to favor Chris in this fight.

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                    #49
                    Originally posted by sterilizer
                    The only reason why Mayweather gets more PPV buys than Pacquiao --and more income as an athlete in general-- is simply because Mayweather is an American and Pacquiao is NOT. Pretty simple.

                    The truth is (and all Floyd fans know it very well) that Manny is an exciting offensive fighter, and he also has very good defensive skills which are of course underrated because of how utterly offensive, exciting and entertaining he is. Manny is he kind of fighter that is always entertaining, opposite to Floyd who is basically a cowardly super-defensive fighter who also does a lot of cheating while fighting --pushing, elbowing, clinching excessively-- and never gets penalized for his cheating because he is big business and most likely the referees and judges are previously "selected" by him, just like an attorney selects jurors for a trial.

                    Also, the reason why De La Hoya - Mayweather was the biggest boxing event of all time, WAS NOT because Floyd was the main attraction, it was the other way around. The simple proof of that is that Oscar De La Hoya ended up earning $52 million US dollars for that fight while Floyd Mayweather earned only $25 million for the fight, LESS THAN HALF of Oscar's earnings. And it was THAT FIGHT that catapulted Floyd into the "big earnings" world. An American idol was dead that day (De La Hoya) and he was immediately replaced by Floyd, another American. If Pac had been an American and had been in Floyd's shoes for that fight, he would have easily become the biggest money-earning boxer of all time, way above Floyd, because Pac is offensive, and not a coward and a cheater/trickster. He is rather a wholesome all-excitement fighter, but his only "fault" is not being an American, pure and simple.

                    Go on Floyd worshipers, keep giving me negative reviews for saying the truth about your cowardly cheater fighter, see how I care about it. If it wasn't for the favor of the referees and even the judges (Castillo 1, remember?) your idol wouldn't be "undefeated" today, basing his whole "strategy" on cheating and never getting penalized for it.
                    I've heard some excuses before, but that dumb **** takes the cake! You think Floyd is popular because he's American? You think De La Hoya vs. Mayweather did better than De La Hoya vs. Pacquiao because Floyd is American? It did better because De La Hoya was older and fighting at 147 (when he fought Manny), which he hadn't done in forever! So you think Floyd cheated Canelo? You think Floyd cheated Cotto? You think Floyd cheated 46 times? Manny is aggressive and gets hit a lot. That's what you like, and that's fine. But the guy who can hit and not get hit has more skill. This ain't a Rocky movie, this is boxing. That's why the judges score the fights the way they do. If you think that just being American is the ticket, just wait until you see the PPV numbers for Manny's next fight against an American. Let's see how many Americans buy that fight!

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                      #50
                      Originally posted by turnedup
                      He's supposed to win this fight but it'll be harder than people expect it to be. This isn't exactly a style that bodes well for pacquaio given the height and reach advantages. Chris maybe just maybe makes him look old in the fight. Pacquaio gets the win based on his resume and his skillset but i'm shocked they picked this guy as the opponent.
                      This is why I always read every post from you. Always a clean and unbiased opinion. Agree with your points.

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