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    #21
    Originally posted by Elroy1
    How so?

    What about when it was 20 rounds? Wasn't THAT the true championship distance?

    I see nothing special about 15 rounds at all tbh.

    The more rounds, the less about boxing and athleticism it is and more about "stamina management".

    Were fights like Ali-Fraizer, Hearns-Leonard, Pryor-Arguello, and a ton of other classic 15 round fights all about stamina management?

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    • jaded
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      #22
      Originally posted by vman075
      The last three rounds were cut out bc of the injury reason. I don't remember the exact statistic but studies showed guys were taking way more damage in those 3 rounds than they were in the earlier rounds. I'm not sure the reasoning that this was happening but I definitely know that injuries were the reason for the change.
      After the death of Deuk-Koo Kim who was stopped in the 14th round in what was a brutal fight (Deuk-Koo Kim vs Ray Boom Boom Mancini) the decision was made to reduce the championship fights to 12 rounds by the WBC...the other sanctioning bodies would do the same over the next few years. It was believed that it would be safer for the boxers. Deuk-Koo Kim's mother flew in from South Korea and had him removed from life support. I saw an interview with Mancini several years ago about it...It had a very disturbing impact on him and his career. It was also very disturbing for fans.

      It may have been an attempt or answer by boxing to deal with the tragedy and make the fans feel that they had taken appropriate measures to ensure that the sport was safe. In the early days of bare-knuckle boxing there was no limit on the number of rounds...Simon Byrne vs James Burke (1833) lasted 3¼ hours.
      Last edited by jaded; 08-04-2014, 03:38 AM.

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      • 521CEO
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        #23
        It'll never happen...Now a days with such a big focus on concussions they will never add another 3 rds. Just look at American football they're so focused on injuries and concussions that they're changing all the rules, at this rate in another 15yrs football may be a non contact sport

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          #24
          Originally posted by jaded
          After the death of Deuk-Koo Kim who was stopped in the 14th round in what was a brutal fight (Deuk-Koo Kim vs Ray Boom Boom Mancini) the decision was made to reduce the championship fights to 12 rounds by the WBC...the other sanctioning bodies would do the same over the next few years. It was believed that it would be safer for the boxers. Deuk-Koo Kim's mother flew in from South Korea and had him removed from life support. I saw an interview with Mancini several years ago about it...It had a very disturbing impact on him and his career. It was also very disturbing for fans.

          It may have been an attempt or answer by boxing to deal with the tragedy and make the fans feel that they had taken appropriate measures to ensure that the sport was safe. In the early days of bare-knuckle boxing there was no limit on the number of rounds...Simon Byrne vs James Burke (1833) lasted 3¼ hours.
          Their have been deaths to fighters within 12 rounds too.

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            #25
            Fatigue and inability to protect an exhausted fighter, id rather not see it. The body of a boxer takes enough beating as it is.

            Anyone here that spars knows how hard it is I get fits going 3 rounds lol, ****e stamina

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            • Lords
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              #26
              Originally posted by Badzi87
              Fatigue and inability to protect an exhausted fighter, id rather not see it. The body of a boxer takes enough beating as it is.

              Anyone here that spars knows how hard it is I get fits going 3 rounds lol, ****e stamina
              That's why you train for 15 rounds. These are professional fighters who train hard and this would only be for championship fights. There have been fights were they fought 60 rounds, an extra 3 rounds isn't much to ask for.

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              • djt117
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                #27
                Originally posted by ChampBox@PR
                Nope. 12 rounds is fine, less injuries, best time managment for tv, and fights can get dull and will bored the **** outta people.
                Figures a guy who describes himself as a member of Team Cotto would be opposed to 15 rounds, lol

                Sorry, I had to do it ... you served up a softball

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                • jaded
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                  #28
                  Originally posted by Lords
                  Their have been deaths to fighters within 12 rounds too.
                  I wasn't defending it...only explaining how the change came to be.

                  But I think the quote below raises a valid point.

                  Originally posted by 521CEO
                  It'll never happen...Now a days with such a big focus on concussions they will never add another 3 rds. Just look at American football they're so focused on injuries and concussions that they're changing all the rules, at this rate in another 15yrs football may be a non contact sport

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                  • djt117
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                    #29
                    I think 15 rounds should be an option for big fights -- maybe the rule could be "title unifications only" and only if both camps agree.

                    Tragic injuries and deaths are rare but they're even rarer at the elite levels of the sport when you're dealing with two top-notch, highly-skilled, superby-conditioned athletes.

                    Plus major title unifications are usually on pay-cable or PPV so that whole "12 rounds is good for keeping the sport TV-friendly" doesn't apply because they don't need to fit the event into a 1-hour time block

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