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Are GGG and Cotto the only elite boxers that fight more than 2 times a year?

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  • #31
    Originally posted by HEND View Post
    Style makes fight, for example: if Maidana was more competitive against May than Alvarez that doesn't mean automatically that Maidana is better than Canelo. Canelo fought with May with a horrible tactic, and I don't say that he is the better fighter but he is better than what he did on that night. And like it or not you are in minority with your thoughts on paid off judges and etc... Most of the casual and the hardcore fans think that Canelo won those two fights. Understand? They were legit wins. I don't say that that's the truth because that's an opinion too, but understand it that your opinion is just an opinion as well and if you are in minority with your opinion IMO you should rewatch those fights maybe not the majority of the boxing fans but you had it wrong first. But at least you shouldn't tell your minority opinions as facts.
    And being an elite fighter is based on thoughts? I always put the fighters on P4P lists based on their resume. Sure the resume has a subjective ultimate as well but far more objective than "what I think about x or y". If you think by that logic that would be totally normal if somebody would consider Wilder as elite P4P top10 fighter, maybe he just fought with tomato cans and internet trolls but hey, if someone think that heis elite, why not?
    This is why I try to be as objective as possible and put away "wht I think about" fighter and see just the resumes, the facts.
    And based on their resumes Canelo is elite (P4P top 10) and GGG is not yet.
    So needing a paid off judge and still barely getting a win is the same as KO'ing a guy? When they are both #2 in the division?

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    • #32
      Originally posted by Beater_of_ass View Post
      So needing a paid off judge and still barely getting a win is the same as KO'ing a guy? When they are both #2 in the division?
      Read my whole comment I wrote, the majority of fighting fans (based on the topics about them and the polls ) think that Canelo wins over Trout and Lara were legit. And I think that beating Lara and Trout is better than beating Geale. Golovkin beat them by KO, okay so what? He has a big punching power, that is his style, Canelo's style isn't necessarily include the knockout but for me because the knockouts Golovkin won't be ranked higher, the main point is which fighters he beat and for me Lara and Trout are ranked higher than Geale. IMO Golovkin is near to the top 10 (whom I consider as elite fighters) but not there yet. And I say again if you don't care about the resume but base on what somebody think and the KO-s you can put Wilder in the top 10 though he just beat bums for this time and everyone know that he is nowhere near from p4p top 10 because he is very unproven yet. But we will see.
      Last edited by HEND; 08-01-2014, 03:13 PM.

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      • #33
        Originally posted by HEND View Post
        Read my whole comment I wrote, the majority of fighting fans (based on the topics about them and the polls ) think that Canelo wins over Trout and Lara were legit. And I think that beating Lara and Trout is better than beating Geale. Golovkin beat them by KO, okay so what? He has a big punching power, that is his style, Canelo's style isn't necessarily include the knockout but for me because the knockouts Golovkin won't be ranked higher, the main point is which fighters he beat and for me Lara and Trout are ranked higher than Geale. IMO Golovkin is near to the top 10 (whom I consider as elite fighters) but not there yet. And I say again if you don't care about the resume but base on what somebody think and the KO-s you can put Wilder in the top 10 though he just beat bums for this time and everyone know that he is nowhere near from p4p top 10 because he is very unproven yet. But we will see.
        Pfft... BWHAHAHA!!! Canelo style is only based on his power, you have no clue what you are talking about. He has no concept of cutting off the ring, setting traps, no ring generalship and has very limited boxing IQ. Also, I do care about resume, but it is how you look and with relativly similar competiation GGG has looked 10x's better. He's actually KO'ing guys in his weight class not, aside from Angulo (which was a terrible stoppage) Canelo has only stopped JWW and WW who moved up.

        Rating a guy is more than the names you have beaten, it's how you fought them win or lose when you face them. Canelo against his best competition has been outclassed by Floyd and won very, very close decisions. GGG has been knocking out everybody, even the guys who are in his weightclass not just the Rosado's who had to move up.

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