Video: WLADIMIR KLITSCHKO FANS PATHETIC EXCUSES!!! - Hatman

[LacedUp]

What are your thoughts on this video?

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I like Hatman, he makes some good points in most of his videos. He's going all in on this one though.

Does he make valid points?

[Elroy1]

Pathetic attempt mate tsk tsk tsk LOL..

The only pathetic thing is that these so called excuses are "real". The mere fact that a Klitschko fan can answer comprehensively to pretty much ANY assault which is not true of most all other "questionable" fighters should spell it out totally.

Klitschko has the best record of any HW of all time.

And there has never been a more dominant champion at HW.

And there has scarcely been a HW worthy of fighting such strong and difficult opponents and making them look ******.

Some more facts!

[LacedUp]

Pathetic attempt mate tsk tsk tsk LOL..

The only pathetic thing is that these so called excuses are "real". The mere fact that a Klitschko fan can answer comprehensively to pretty much ANY assault which is not true of most all other "questionable" fighters should spell it out totally.

Klitschko has the best record of any HW of all time.

And there has never been a more dominant champion at HW.

And there has scarcely been a HW worthy of fighting such strong and difficult opponents and making them look ******.

Some more facts!

I think he's talking about you it seems.

[Elroy1]

He's talking rubbish it seems more like it!

Show me an opponent who is a "better HW boxer" than Klitschko?

I'd laugh at all but only a few choices.

[BattlingNelson]

What are your thoughts on this video?

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I like Hatman, he makes some good points in most of his videos. He's going all in on this one though.

Does he make valid points?

Curious: Did you listen to those full 32 min.?

Can't you take us through the main points?

[LacedUp]

Curious: Did you listen to those full 32 min.?

Can't you take us through the main points?

I did when it first came out.

To sum it up:

Klitschko fans claim that:

- Hopkins, Ward, Lennox and Ali also held a lot in their careers
- Klitschko's holding isn't fouling
- Povetkin was at fault for the leaning and holding
- That WK can not do any wrong

Hatman's points:

- WK fought like a girl (the dog version)
- WK held more than Ward, Lennox and Ali have ever done
- Hopkins has the old age excuse, but he also thinks he's holding too much
- That Klitschko fans are pathetic because they can't hold their hands up and admit that WK fouled excessively against Povetkin

Those were the main points.

[beez721]

I did when it first came out.

To sum it up:

Klitschko fans claim that:

- Hopkins, Ward, Lennox and Ali also held a lot in their careers
- Klitschko's holding isn't fouling
- Povetkin was at fault for the leaning and holding
- That WK can not do any wrong

Hatman's points:

- WK fought like a girl (the dog version)
- WK held more than Ward, Lennox and Ali have ever done
- Hopkins has the old age excuse, but he also thinks he's holding too much
- That Klitschko fans are pathetic because they can't hold their hands up and admit that WK fouled excessively against Povetkin

Those were the main points.

he makes some good points but hes overly crititcal imo. I think there's an in between here between the biased fanboys and haters like himself (or so it seems)

[LacedUp]

he makes some good points but hes overly crititcal imo. I think there's an in between here between the biased fanboys and haters like himself (or so it seems)

In fairness, most Klitschko fans recognized his wrong doing in that fight, Like you did as well I remember. But some fans tried to blame Povetkin which was pretty insane IMO. They also tried to talk about Ali and other guys who definitely never held as much at any time in the career as Wlad did.

But he does say some things that were quite strong also.

[beez721]

In fairness, most Klitschko fans recognized his wrong doing in that fight, Like you did as well I remember. But some fans tried to blame Povetkin which was pretty insane IMO. They also tried to talk about Ali and other guys who definitely never held as much at any time in the career as Wlad did.

But he does say some things that were quite strong also.

yea,,,I dont know how anyone couldnt blame wlad for the povetkin fiasco and it was ridiculous. I almost dropped him as a fan after that one. I just have a problem with the people that seem to think he holds excessively in all his fights when its really only been a handful of fights when hes fighting the shorter opponents that would bulrush him. I agree that ali and some of the other greats didnt hold to the point wlad did in those few terrible fights of his

[Elroy1]

I did when it first came out.

To sum it up:

Klitschko fans claim that:

- Hopkins, Ward, Lennox and Ali also held a lot in their careers
- Klitschko's holding isn't fouling
- Povetkin was at fault for the leaning and holding
- That WK can not do any wrong

Hatman's points:

- WK fought like a girl (the dog version)
- WK held more than Ward, Lennox and Ali have ever done
- Hopkins has the old age excuse, but he also thinks he's holding too much
- That Klitschko fans are pathetic because they can't hold their hands up and admit that WK fouled excessively against Povetkin

Those were the main points.

I'll put my hand up and declare that WK held too much against Povetkin..

But no it wasn't cheating. It was clinch and release.

Take that fight out the equation and WK doesn't particularly hold more than the others. Ali for instance held more before Povetkin fight.

And Povetkin is solely to blame for HALF of the fights clinching by trying to bull rush all the time.

It was called that would be the case even BEFORE the fight because that represented Povetkins only real pnchers chance to win.

Silly, silly, silly