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  • #21
    Originally posted by techliam View Post
    Hernandez only has a half recognised lineage, its highly debatable
    Do your homework, Hernandez is the Ring Magazine Champion,

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    • #22
      Originally posted by Art-illery View Post
      Those new crop of kids are something else... I've paid attention to the Cuba Domadores of the WSB, and those kids got some heart! The crazy part about them is that they won the 4th season of the WSB in their debut season after the Cuban government lifted its ban on professional sports after damn near half a century. And they fought against a country known for its shady dealings in amateur boxing (Azerbaijan) in their own backyard in Baku. Those final fights were exciting as hell, and both teams put up one hell of a show! Some of those fighters like Robeisy Ramirez-Carranza (who was just put back in the national team after being suspended) and Roniel Iglesias-Sotolongo fight in an "Un-Cuban" like manner too. The newly defected former members of the Domadores like Marcos Forestal and Ramon Luis Nicolas are going to be interesting in showing us what the Cubans are now learning:



      I always thought of amateur boxing was theoretically "purer" than pro-boxing, because of its high emphasis on technique rather than cheap bullying. These kids don't re-hydrate three to four weight divisions on the days of their fights, and cheap tricks won't cut it in those tournaments. The computerized scoring system wasn't the best in the world, and it did rob some of boxing finest athletes like Roy Jones Jr. and Floyd Mayweather Jr. But how long can countries like the United States blame that computerized scoring system for not medaling in the Olympics? If anybody knows their boxing history, Cuba has had a boxing history that went past fighters like Guillermo Rigondeaux and Yuriorkis Gamboa. Kid Gavilan and Kid Chocolate fought with brass balls back in the day, and they were BIG waaaay before Castro took over Cuba from U.S. imperialism. So that computerized scoring system possibly could have affected other countries besides the U.S. There are other countries besides the U.S. and Mexico with exceptional boxing talents that could do very well in the pros. But they are under-represented in terms of financial support, because they don't have the ethnic and overwhelming nationalistic support like Mexico and Puerto Rico in the Americas.

      Even if Cubans like Rigo and Lara were designed for that computerized system, you gotta think why they were taught in such a manner. The Cuban govt. probably thought to themselves that "these boxers were never going to box professionally, so why teach them the rough house tactics that the pros use?" As much as they know, they're still learning. For a country to be under-represented and not supported, I think Cuban boxers are doing pretty well representing themselves. Considering their circumstances surrounding political dealings in pro boxing in the Americas.


      In London, it took a teenage young woman (Claressa Shields) to do a man's job (get a gold medal)... Rio 2016 is gonna be interesting going back to the 10 point system with no headgear. The U.S. Boxing team and Mexico don't have ANY EXCUSES not to medal... Since these countries produce the so-called "best boxers in the world."
      Di he DQ him? Why?

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      • #23
        6/28/14 - Crawford vs. Gamboa - Crawford was too big doe! Gamboa was rusty doe! Gamboa needs a real trainer doe! Gamboa got knocked out because Bob Arum hates Cubans doe! Crawford didn't get drug tested doe! Gamboa is still the best at 130 doe!

        7/12/14 - Canelo vs. Lara - It was a robbery doe! Canelo scratched Lara doe! Lara wasn't running, he was power walking doe! 117-111 for Canelo is blasphemy, I had it 118-110 for Lara doe! Canelo only landed on Lara's arms and back doe!

        7/19/14 - Kokietgym vs. Rigondeaux - It wasn't a cheap shot doe! People say Cubans are boring doe! The Chinese D.K.S.A.B. doe! Bob Arum is a terrible promoter doe! A Rigondeaux fight in Miami will draw 100,000 doe! Rigondeaux is better than Mayweather doe! Rigondeaux has a very witty personality doe!

        7/26/14 - Jennings vs. Perez - Perez swept the first 6 rounds doe! Jennings only won because he's American doe! The promoters forced Perez to eat at the buffet before the fight doe! Jennings wasn't even impressive doe! They didn't let Perez have his ritual Twinkie before the fight doe!

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        • #24
          Originally posted by BendOver View Post
          Di he DQ him? Why?
          Boxrec has it as a win for Luis.

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          • #25
            Originally posted by Jalisciense909 View Post
            6/28/14 - Crawford vs. Gamboa - Crawford was too big doe! Gamboa was rusty doe! Gamboa needs a real trainer doe! Gamboa got knocked out because Bob Arum hates Cubans doe! Crawford didn't get drug tested doe! Gamboa is still the best at 130 doe!

            7/12/14 - Canelo vs. Lara - It was a robbery doe! Canelo scratched Lara doe! Lara wasn't running, he was power walking doe! 117-111 for Canelo is blasphemy, I had it 118-110 for Lara doe! Canelo only landed on Lara's arms and back doe!

            7/19/14 - Kokietgym vs. Rigondeaux - It wasn't a cheap shot doe! People say Cubans are boring doe! The Chinese D.K.S.A.B. doe! Bob Arum is a terrible promoter doe! A Rigondeaux fight in Miami will draw 100,000 doe! Rigondeaux is better than Mayweather doe! Rigondeaux has a very witty personality doe!

            7/26/14 - Jennings vs. Perez - Perez swept the first 6 rounds doe! Jennings only won because he's American doe! The promoters forced Perez to eat at the buffet before the fight doe! Jennings wasn't even impressive doe! They didn't let Perez have his ritual Twinkie before the fight doe!
            bad year for the cubans and their best guy had to have a sucker punch KO lol smh

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            • #26
              Originally posted by BendOver View Post
              Di he DQ him? Why?
              Supposedly, he was DQed. Ramon hit Dakota while he was going down. I thought it wouldn't have made much of a difference. Dakota was out on his feet.

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              • #27
                Originally posted by BendOver View Post
                And yet you have one of the K brothers as your avatar...
                Wladimir Klitschko actually steps in to fight and he is still knocking people out legitly unlike runners like Lara and Borendeaux.

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