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  • FeFist
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    #21
    Originally posted by Masters01
    Bruce is regularly credited as being the father of MMA (by Dana White, Anderson Silva, Jon Jones etc). He's a God in that world and the vast majority of them believe that he would have been an elite. He was always meant to be a complete fighter, not a boxer. It makes sense that boxing fans wont understand Bruce.
    Seems more like pandering to me. The people who buy into the hype of UFC being the baddest mofo on the planet often overlap with the people who believes Bruce Lee is the greatest of all time.

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      #22
      Originally posted by Masters01
      Bruce is regularly credited as being the father of MMA (by Dana White, Anderson Silva, Jon Jones etc). He's a God in that world and the vast majority of them believe that he would have been an elite. He was always meant to be a complete fighter, not a boxer. It makes sense that boxing fans wont understand Bruce.


      the father of MMA

      that's something that is said because it has an appeal. it sells. it is complete horsesh#t.

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        #23
        Originally posted by Masters01
        Bruce is regularly credited as being the father of MMA (by Dana White, Anderson Silva, Jon Jones etc). He's a God in that world and the vast majority of them believe that he would have been an elite. He was always meant to be a complete fighter, not a boxer. It makes sense that boxing fans wont understand Bruce.
        That's an absolutely ******ed post!

        The 1st few series of UFC was about fighters from all different disciplines fighting to establish which was most proficient sort of thing. Royce Gracie dominated pretty quickly and established that Brazillian style JuJitzu was rather an essential ingredient for MMA.

        Bruce was mainly a striker anyway so how the hell is he the father of MMA?

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          #24
          Originally posted by FeFist
          I'm sure he could beat some professional boxers, Freddie Flintoff managed to, but he wouldn't beat anyone above the level of a journey man. Whether he could do better if he dedicated his life to the sport is an unknown; I'd personally put my money on him doing quite well because of his work ethics and natural attributes.

          lee is clearly a gifted athlete.

          he applied his athletic talents to acting, however, and not fighting.

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            #25
            Originally posted by Masters01
            To more directly respond to the OP: yes of course Bruce would destroy boxers his size, easily Im sure. But that's if he's having a real fight with them. If it's just a boxing match, and Bruce isnt allowed to use his legs, grabs, locks, fingers, etc, then the boxer wins easy.
            I agree. For the sake of discussion I'm talking about a real fight. No rules.

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              #26
              Originally posted by FeFist
              Seems more like pandering to me. The people who buy into the hype of UFC being the baddest mofo on the planet often overlap with the people who believes Bruce Lee is the greatest of all time.
              They are the baddest men on the planet. They actually fight lol. They dnt say 'ok lets fight, but youre not allowed to use your legs, and you cant grab me. you can only punch me but you must only punch me above the belt and not behind the head. and if you knock me down, you have to give me 10 seconds to recover.'

              In MMA, minus eye gouging and groin shots, its actual real fighting.

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                #27
                Originally posted by Elroy1
                That's an absolutely ******ed post!

                The 1st few series of UFC was about fighters from all different disciplines fighting to establish which was most proficient sort of thing. Royce Gracie dominated pretty quickly and established that Brazillian style JuJitzu was rather an essential ingredient for MMA.

                Bruce was mainly a striker anyway so how the hell is he the father of MMA?
                Lol Here is a video of the Gracie's themselves and Dana White saying that Bruce is the father of MMA. Ouch.

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by Masters01
                  Lol Here is a video of the Gracie's themselves and Dana White saying that Bruce is the father of MMA. Ouch.

                  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u2m3U25Qj7U


                  again, there is an appeal to their saying that.

                  dana white is a freaking promotor, man. all he does is sell MMA. he doesn't have any obligations to tell the truth about it.

                  bob arum has dropped some freaking dandy lines in his day. should we believe him?

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by New England
                    again, there is an appeal to their saying that.

                    dana white is a freaking promotor, man. all he does is sell MMA. he doesn't have any obligations to tell the truth about it.

                    bob arum has dropped some freaking dandy lines in his day. should we believe him?
                    This is beyond dumb. Bruce Lee died 20 years before the UFC was created. The UFC have no proprietary rights over Bruce Lee's image, and they cant make any money through him. There's absolutely no financial incentive to have a non-UFC fighter as the father of MMA. It'd make a lot more sense to have a UFC fighter (like the Gracie's) be the father of MMA, who they can actually use to make money from.

                    Those UFC Bruce Lee t-shirts doe.

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by Masters01
                      Lol Here is a video of the Gracie's themselves and Dana White saying that Bruce is the father of MMA. Ouch.

                      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u2m3U25Qj7U
                      I think "Father of MMA" is a subjective term with no real value.

                      Bruce Lee can't take full credit for the sport of Mixed Martial Arts.

                      He can get credit for creating his own Martial Art that is a complete fighting system that addresses all of the ranges of combat we see in MMA. I think he was ahead of his time and even ahead of the Gracies because the Gracies tried to prove the superiority of Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu whereas Bruce Lee didn't believe in styles. Jeet Kune Do was a Martial Arts philosophy rather than just another style. He believed in learning all the useful techniques and dispensing with anything that wasn't useful. Bruce Lee liked Boxing so I think he would have loved MMA as a sport but what he was interested in was scientific street fighting not combat sports.

                      I think Helio Gracie might be more deserving of the term "Father of MMA" because he actually competed and started the old Vale Tudo competitions that were the basis for the UFC and the formation of the modern sport Mixed Martial Arts.

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