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  • Ray Mancini: "Canelo is an ordinary fighter"

    http://www.boxingchannel.tv/ray-manc...her-is-special

    Mancini on Canelo, GGG and Mayweather-Maidana

  • #2
    He should really know better than to say that. It doesn't even make any literal sense.

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    • #3
      He makes some good points but I have to disagree in that Canelo is ordinary. Canelo's defense is more catch and counter than slipping shots.

      I rewatched the fight and I scored it 116-115 giving some even rounds in there. Lara stopped throwing after round 8, and Canelo was definitely the aggressor.

      A lot of the shots that Lara was "landing" were being blocked on the gloves of Canelo, a lot of them. It was a horrible fight, just a complete dud.

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      • #4
        If Canelo is an ordinary fighter then what does that make his competition that he keeps beating? That must make them elite.................... Fart

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        • #5
          mancini is the best. true gentleman of the sport and always loved watching him fight.

          with regards to his comments on alvarez, he is ABSOLUTELY right. there is nothing special about canelo. maybe his hand speed is nice, but that's it. juan francisco estrada is leagues above canelo in terms of skill and versatility but for some reason he gets no love or attention. maybe if estrada dyed his hair red people might start talking about him.

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          • #6
            I think its unfair to say hes an ordinary fighter. The slick southpaw style would make any fighter look ordinary. It doesnt mean they are.

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            • #7
              Canelo is better than an ordinary fighter. However, nobody will argue that he has looked very ordinary against Lara and Trout, and that he could have lost one of these two fights if he wasn't a superstar. I think he will always look average against slick boxers. He certainly looked spectacular against Angulo, but at 154 you have Andrade and the Charlos who could make him look bad again. James Kirkland and even Carlos Molina are probably better style matchups for him.

              Canelo is a good fighter. Not a special fighter, not an ordinary fighter.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Cleto_Reyes View Post
                I think its unfair to say hes an ordinary fighter. The slick southpaw style would make any fighter look ordinary. It doesnt mean they are.

                I think he means more of ordinary in a sense of adaptation. What Canelo does he does very well, but he still seems exploitable.

                I still find he is stuck in between styles. He is not very good at cutting the ring off and always seems to prefer guys to come to him. If he can get over that hump, then we will see improvement in him.

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                • #9
                  He hasn't looked great against southpaws but he's only fought two natural southpaws in his career.

                  I don't understand how he had Lara clearly winning yet he scored it 115-114?

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by deanrw View Post
                    I think he means more of ordinary in a sense of adaptation. What Canelo does he does very well, but he still seems exploitable.

                    I still find he is stuck in between styles. He is not very good at cutting the ring off and always seems to prefer guys to come to him. If he can get over that hump, then we will see improvement in him.
                    Canelo will never lose a decision unless he's fighting Mayweather again that's how much of a handicap he has coming in to every fight.

                    He was getting too much credit for his body shots against Lara. He landed half of those body punches and they never had Lara hurt to the point that you can say wow he's looking like Duran in there making Lara fold like a chair and almost taking a knee.

                    Canelo fanboys will defend Canelo and his failed attempt yet again getting outboxed in 3 of his last 4 fights. But hey look at the bright side he's going to be fighting weak minded Kirkland or child molester Molina and make it PPV's.

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