If you think the concensus p4p best is a coward what does it say about the rest?

[tangalog2200]

Why don't u go check the records of fighters the legends fought and how many past and future champs they fought. This is complete nonsense!

past and future champs......

that is very interesting.....

what about the timing of these fights?

don't people say the oskie floyd beat was much better than the oskie pac retired?

or the cotto floyd beat was pac's left over?

[New England]

is this you, larry?

[Juof]

Gotta love floyd but come on...
Even after the "invincible" pacquiao got koed by Marquez he still didn't have the balls to get in there against pacquiao. Floyd put a lesson on Marquez, who PAC struggles with. And he uses that as an excuse to duck him. Now he's going on about foam gloves. It doesn't matter if your the A side no other top fighter in history pulled this stuff... Dude try's to bend the rules all the time to get his way. Rumour has it joe Cortez will ref the fight and there will be no infighting aloud so maidanas screwed.

[therealpugilist]

For his last 10 fights. There was a better opponent. But he fought the popular guy who was limited. Those hall of famers you speak
Were all past prime. Floyd has NEVER beat a prime A fighter.

Pretty boy was a real fighter.since then sthe stipulation king has been all entertainer

The best dont miss over 10 of the best in any era but this one and floyd is the poster boy. He had the let them beat eachother attitude, not the im gonna get in this dude arce (no ****) attitude.he should have challenged paul. Tall long undefeated imagine the star power of floyd vs the giant. And paul win or lose would have brought it

Mayweather is past prime and was when he fought odlh, cotto ans mosley

Do you think he is immortal?
The same paul williams who went 1-1against decent quintana

There are several fighters he beat that are better and more proven than 2 gifts williams(Lara and martinez lol)

Missed ten lol dude beat the champion in 4 out of 5 weight classes and has beat over 20 top ten guys...

[White_Knight]

Mayweather is past prime and was when he fought odlh, cotto ans mosley

Do you think he is immortal?
The same paul williams who went 1-1against decent quintana

There are several fighters he beat that are better and more proven than 2 gifts williams(Lara and martinez lol)

Missed ten lol dude beat the champion in 4 out of 5 weight classes and has beat over 20 top ten guys...

De La Hoya and Mosley were further past their prime. Mosley was 38 for Christ's sake. Mayweather was just exiting his prime against De La Hoya - hardly worth mentioning.

You can make fun of Williams all you want but at least he didn't duck Margarito. Furthermore, his best win (Martinez) is better than any on Mayweather's record.

[megadeth]

past and future champs......

that is very interesting.....

what about the timing of these fights?

don't people say the oskie floyd beat was much better than the oskie pac retired?

or the cotto floyd beat was pac's left over?

But let's not mention the timing of Pac fighting fighters that Floyd beat right?
Or fighters that Floyd didn't beat for that matter.

Barrera was late prime, had been through a lot of wars, but still a very good win.
Morales was no longer prime when he beat him 2x AND drained.
Hatton was still prime but certainly not the fighter Floyd fought.
Shane was shot.
ODH was shot and drained.
Cotto was prime but had nowhere near the confidence he has previously or later.
Margarito was shot.
Clottey was a good win.
The Marquez fights could've gone either way and the only decisive one, Pac got Ko'd in.
Bradley was Prime and very good win.

Floyd beat better versions of every fighter they both fought except Marquez and their fights could've gone either way. Not to mention, Floyd embarrassed a younger 3 year younger version than the one that KO'd Pac.

I know your gonna mention Cotto, but again Cotto himself said he had lost confidence after his 1st fight with Margarito, and his fights afterwards showed it. Confidence which he didn't get back until after he beat Margarito, which coincidentally, was right before he fought Floyd. Roach himself mentioned that Cotto was not the same fighter after Margarito and basically said that, that is why they wanted the fight. Finally proof, Pac & Team pursued the Cotto fight, but wouldn't fight him at 152. Common sense says that even they felt that a Cotto at 152 would've been better than the one they fought 145. No reason to chase the fight, only to duck it in the end, if they felt that it would've been an easier fight at 152.

Was it Floyd's fault that ODH AND Mosley didn't want the fight when he had been calling them out for years? And regardless of the timing, the facts say that he fought a Mosley and a Cotto that Pac was unwilling to fight. Not to mention that Cotto himself said that the fight was never offered to him and he never lobbied for it.

[Ragnar Lothbrok]

smells like a larry alt.

i can smell the pcp and spilled ramen noodle seasoning packets.

[-MAKAVELLI-]

Coward, Fraud, Gayweather you name it. Nothing is off limits when he comes to Floyd Mayweather Jr.

I dont judge fighters by their personality,how they are outside the ring, but how they prepare for fights and how they perform inside the ring.

We all have our own opinions but one thing you cant take from him is his accomplishments

I never knew a coward could possibly.........

1) Defeat more top ten contenders and champions than any active fighter in the sport....20 current past, current or future champions/titlists

2) 24-0 in title fights.....20-0 in lineal title fights(ALMOST HALF HIS FIGHTS ARE LINEAL TITLE FIGHTS)

3)Defeated 12 current or former world titlists in a row....Pacquaio, Jones Jr., Hopkins, Marquez have not come close to this

4) 4 lineal titles out of 5 weight classes he competed in


I just have one question......YOU MAD?

[therealpugilist]

De La Hoya and Mosley were further past their prime. Mosley was 38 for Christ's sake. Mayweather was just exiting his prime against De La Hoya - hardly worth mentioning.

You can make fun of Williams all you want but at least he didn't duck Margarito. Furthermore, his best win (Martinez) is better than any on Mayweather's record.

Martinez was a novice and had won no big fights at that point and started boxing in his early 20's...it would have been a great win if he fought Martinez at 154-160 when he was primed

I know you seriously dont think Margo beating Martinez with no title on the line, and neither being ranked top ten at ww at the time is more impressive than Mayweather beating p4p types like Castillo, Corrales, Cotto and Mosely.

If you do it says a lot

[tangalog2200]

But let's not mention the timing of Pac fighting fighters that Floyd beat right?
Or fighters that Floyd didn't beat for that matter.

Barrera was late prime, had been through a lot of wars, but still a very good win.
Morales was no longer prime when he beat him 2x AND drained.
Hatton was still prime but certainly not the fighter Floyd fought.
Shane was shot.
ODH was shot and drained.
Cotto was prime but had nowhere near the confidence he has previously or later.
Margarito was shot.
Clottey was a good win.
The Marquez fights could've gone either way and the only decisive one, Pac got Ko'd in.
Bradley was Prime and very good win.

Floyd beat better versions of every fighter they both fought except Marquez and their fights could've gone either way. Not to mention, Floyd embarrassed a younger 3 year younger version than the one that KO'd Pac.

I know your gonna mention Cotto, but again Cotto himself said he had lost confidence after his 1st fight with Margarito, and his fights afterwards showed it. Confidence which he didn't get back until after he beat Margarito, which coincidentally, was right before he fought Floyd. Roach himself mentioned that Cotto was not the same fighter after Margarito and basically said that, that is why they wanted the fight. Finally proof, Pac & Team pursued the Cotto fight, but wouldn't fight him at 152. Common sense says that even they felt that a Cotto at 152 would've been better than the one they fought 145. No reason to chase the fight, only to duck it in the end, if they felt that it would've been an easier fight at 152.

Was it Floyd's fault that ODH AND Mosley didn't want the fight when he had been calling them out for years? And regardless of the timing, the facts say that he fought a Mosley and a Cotto that Pac was unwilling to fight. Not to mention that Cotto himself said that the fight was never offered to him and he never lobbied for it.

well, that is why i said it was very interesting...

any one can make a square a circle or a circle a square...

it borders on counting chicks with the eggs not being laid yet...

future champs?

you will give credit to fighter A for the accomplishments of fighter B years after they fought each other? have you never heard of a fighter re-discovering or re-inventing himself? pac the one-dimensional right right straight left fighter that erik beat somehow improved as one can see in the pac erik 2 & 3...

boxers/fighters may fade in time or get battle weary...but some do improve...

saying floyd beat jmm who put pac to dreamland to illustrate floyd is better than pac is hogwash...jmm fighting pac 4 times tells me jmm has more balls than floyd who shun pac like the bubonic plague...is the thread not along this line?