Official Tyson Fury vs Wladimir Klitschko Post Fight Discussion Thread

[Jewish-Reptile]

620 pages discussing far and away the worst big-fight of 2015?

How many big fights of 2015 were their in 2015 ? I remember one with Wilder in January this year, I hope you're not stating this fight was worse than the Duhapa and Molina fights for Wilder, whilst on his whistle stop tour of fighting exclusive against puddings, cans and creme puffs with his next stop scheduled for January next year against a European cabbie/soccer thug.

What you meant was 620 pages of dedicated Fury and Klitschko fans enjoying discussing their favourite men, just because Wilder can't average more than ten pages is not out fault, maybe if he elected to face guys on a higher level than Molina this may invoke more interest in his threads, until then this is where the real heavyweight discussion is discussed.

[Jewish-Reptile]

Nothing blinds my judgement son. I judged that Fury would make your hero look like a complete mug. I was right.

Do you genuinely believe Fury made him look a mug, you don't at all feel the fight was competitive ?

[Jewish-Reptile]

Dude - The judges had him winning 8 rounds on two cards and 9 on one card. No one had Fury winning only 7 rounds. You obviously just don't understand what a point deduction is or how to score it it seems.

I for sure scored it 11-1 Fury.

If you would care to tell me how Wlad won his rounds, I'd be very interested.

You've been as consistent as ever over the years trying to pull Klitschko's career down, stating Fury took 11-1 just can't be taken serious or accepted from anyone, the fact it is yourself saying this gives all the more reason for it to be laughed at.

I'm not sure what you stand to gain or achieve from claiming Wlad was even worse than his showing offered, it literally just doesn't make sense for a fan of Fury to claim Wlad was not even competitive in the least. If I was a Fury fan I'd be of the opinion Wlad came into the fight a great champion and that Fury was thoroughly convincing against a spirited yet effort that fell short. The way you describe it is Klitschko did not in the least give any effort whatsoever, in a rematch Wlad can not possibly perform any worse !

The more I watch the replays I feel Wlad was waiting to end the fight with one punch, waiting for an opening to present itself yet that opportunity never truly arose as he did not really let his right hand go until the 12th. Ok yes he was exceptionally mediocre by his own standards but he was competitive throughout and made Fury work for every moment of the fight, at no point could Fury switch off. I'd be enlighten if anybody could describe to me the context of schooling so I can apply it to whatever it is I am missing in this fight. For me personally schooling somebody you have to absolutely out class them, peppering them with punches from any and every angle completely avoiding being hit yourself in the exchanges. If anything I really feel Fury beat Wlad at his own game, smother, hold, grapple, clinch, when he himself is not throwing punches or is about to enter into exchanges after he has thrown and landed his own punches.

Fury really did not land that many significant blows himself, and the majority of the damage to Klitschko's face were caused by head clashes and really weren't much worse than when they first happened as Fury himself was unable to utilise accurate, multiple punches thereafter to force the cut to be much worse or have a significant meaning toward the outcome of the fight.

My genuine fear when the cut opened as early as it did was one of what I felt when Lewis fought Vitali, I was worried Fury would go to work on the cut like Lewis did. Fury was unable to turn this into an advantage though and I feel that has to be attributed to the defensive skills of Klitschko himself. He really isn't given any props whatsoever as he did so little, yet Fury really only did little more and he is not roundly criticised over the overall punch statistics as he came out with the win.

And this notion I see many now subscribing to that it was a schooling genuinely makes me laugh, I'm smiling right now, laughing at the fact Wlad really hasn't much to do to actually impress upon his last showing to some so called boxing fans. All he really has to do is through one punch in some rounds and he's performed better than he already did previously !

[Simurgh]

Although Fury clearly won the fight, I can't remember a single round where I though 'wow that was a big round for tyson'

Mostly he did just enough to win the rounds, nothing like shut-out..

It was the battle between two defensively orientated fighters. Fury had a bit more success. But still his connect rate was what.. something in low 20% with around 370 punches he threw..

His defence was great, but the rest nothing to write the books about. To put it into prospective he landed some 10 punches more than what David Haye landed against Wlad.

Tyson won clearly, but schooling.. shut-out... please..

[Box-Office]

Theres no bad discussion anytime for a HW title fight . Always worth disecting and breaking down a fight regardless what transpires , in my nearly 30 years since following boxing since 86 ive never seen a dull fight ,those who study the fight game will always get something out of even the most dull fight !

I 100% agree with this.

[LacedUp]

Although Fury clearly won the fight, I can't remember a single round where I though 'wow that was a big round for tyson'

Mostly he did just enough to win the rounds, nothing like shut-out..

It was the battle between two defensively orientated fighters. Fury had a bit more success. But still his connect rate was what.. something in low 20% with around 370 punches he threw..

His defence was great, but the rest nothing to write the books about. To put it into prospective he landed some 10 punches more than what David Haye landed against Wlad.

Tyson won clearly, but schooling.. shut-out... please..

Just like you can't remember saying: "Wlad won that round"

[LacedUp]

You've been as consistent as ever over the years trying to pull Klitschko's career down, stating Fury took 11-1 just can't be taken serious or accepted from anyone, the fact it is yourself saying this gives all the more reason for it to be laughed at.

I'm not sure what you stand to gain or achieve from claiming Wlad was even worse than his showing offered, it literally just doesn't make sense for a fan of Fury to claim Wlad was not even competitive in the least. If I was a Fury fan I'd be of the opinion Wlad came into the fight a great champion and that Fury was thoroughly convincing against a spirited yet effort that fell short. The way you describe it is Klitschko did not in the least give any effort whatsoever, in a rematch Wlad can not possibly perform any worse !

The more I watch the replays I feel Wlad was waiting to end the fight with one punch, waiting for an opening to present itself yet that opportunity never truly arose as he did not really let his right hand go until the 12th. Ok yes he was exceptionally mediocre by his own standards but he was competitive throughout and made Fury work for every moment of the fight, at no point could Fury switch off. I'd be enlighten if anybody could describe to me the context of schooling so I can apply it to whatever it is I am missing in this fight. For me personally schooling somebody you have to absolutely out class them, peppering them with punches from any and every angle completely avoiding being hit yourself in the exchanges. If anything I really feel Fury beat Wlad at his own game, smother, hold, grapple, clinch, when he himself is not throwing punches or is about to enter into exchanges after he has thrown and landed his own punches.

Fury really did not land that many significant blows himself, and the majority of the damage to Klitschko's face were caused by head clashes and really weren't much worse than when they first happened as Fury himself was unable to utilise accurate, multiple punches thereafter to force the cut to be much worse or have a significant meaning toward the outcome of the fight.

My genuine fear when the cut opened as early as it did was one of what I felt when Lewis fought Vitali, I was worried Fury would go to work on the cut like Lewis did. Fury was unable to turn this into an advantage though and I feel that has to be attributed to the defensive skills of Klitschko himself. He really isn't given any props whatsoever as he did so little, yet Fury really only did little more and he is not roundly criticised over the overall punch statistics as he came out with the win.

And this notion I see many now subscribing to that it was a schooling genuinely makes me laugh, I'm smiling right now, laughing at the fact Wlad really hasn't much to do to actually impress upon his last showing to some so called boxing fans. All he really has to do is through one punch in some rounds and he's performed better than he already did previously !

Why would I say Wlad won more rounds than he did? Look at this thread when the fight happened, plenty of people said they found it hard to score a round to Wlad.

So no I'm not alone, and you can leave that victim mentality where it's been since Fury decisively won.

"Either we're going to see a new champion or a robbery is going to take place".

Fury CLEARLY won. And won wide.

[Elroy1]

Just like you can't remember saying: "Wlad won that round"

Look man, you are alright by me these days.. Certainly a quality poster at times.

But you are beaten here.. Badly beaten...

Let it go!

[sugarsmosley]

Look man, you are alright by me these days.. Certainly a quality poster at times.

But you are beaten here.. Badly beaten...

Let it go!

tyson fury would have dominated lennox lewis in your eyes?

[Drunken Cat]

Oh so did he win like 2 rnds? Maybe 3?You realize you give him 4 its not every rnd ,right?

I went back and looked at my scorecard in this thread, and it turned out I had it 116-111. That's 3 rounds for Wlad, plus a point deduction. I thought two of the rounds were toss ups, the 1st, and perhaps the 4th (don't remember exactly). I gave the 1st to Fury, and the other to Wlad., but I could see either going either way.

I thought Fury rather clearly one, and so did most observers. The fight was not controversial whatsoever.