Official Tyson Fury vs Wladimir Klitschko Post Fight Discussion Thread

[1hourRun]

Uncertain on his future.

[beez721]

What do you mean was? Chisora is still fighting, and just had a first round KO. He had some time away from boxing, but I heard an interview with him before his last fight, and he sounded in high spirits and very confident and motivated. Chisora has his limitations, but he is a decent fringe contender, and an entertaining guy to watch. He was also matched pretty tough early on in his career. And he holds a win of Helenius, regardless of what the record books say.

wasnt aware he was back at it. yea,,,,he did fight some tough guys for not having much experience. give him credit there.that may have been his downfall. he looked pretty damaged in that fury fight. he took a beating

[Jewish-Reptile]

Fury has a number of advantages, as has already been pointed out. His combination punching is significantly more fluid than Wlad's, who besides his excellent one two is really quite terrible in this area. He also seems much more naturally at ease in the ring and has shown the ability to adapt on the fly and change his tactics when they're not working for him. Wlad's only really at ease when he's fighting the way he wants to fight, at distance and with full discretion to clinch whenever he wants. Fury can box, brawl, counterpunch, whathaveyou, and shows equal abilities at inboxing as he does at range (though for obvious reasons he prefers to fight at distance). He also appears to have incredible stamina for a big man.

It's very possible that a number of these qualities might appear exaggerated due to the opposition he's faced, but I have a hard time ever seeing Wlad being able to emulate what Fury did to Chisora or Hammer (he'd beat them of course, just not in the way that Fury did).

You have a hard time seeing Wlad destroy Chisora in 10 and Hammer in 8 ? You're not being serious, you caught me out there for a moment.

[Fury4daWIN]

You have a hard time seeing Wlad destroy Chisora in 10 and Hammer in 8 ? You're not being serious, you caught me out there for a moment.

Uh uh. I said I have a hard time seeing Wlad emulate what Tyson was able to do to them, switch hitting, sticking and moving, combination punching from multiple angles etc. Of course he'd beat them, but he'd do it in his own boring fashion which doesn't need to be gone over at this stage. I thought I made that quite clear in my post, so I have to assume you're trying to be contentious for the sake of it.

[Elroy1]

He is right about that.. He is a modern day Muhammad Ali...

And that's exactly why he's gonna get the absolute snot knocked out of him!

[Fury4daWIN]

who said chisora was shot when fury stopped him? I sure didnt. he wasnt shot but he was always garbage to begin with

Lots of people have tried to claim he was shot when Fury fought him. Just go back over this thread and you'll probably find one within about ten pages. He wasn't shot, and there's nothing to suggest that he is now, though the Fury schooling must have taken a lot out of him mentally and physically.

As for being garbage, well as pointed out he already stopped Malik Scott, who's just taken a win over Tony Thompson and should have got a win over current top tenner Glaskov, beaten once hot prospect Helenius and given Vitali one of the toughest fights of his career, so he's clearly not quite as bad as you want to make him seem.

Calling Chisora garbage automatically invalidates a good number of Wlad's opponents such as Tony Tiger, Leapai, Peter and Brewster, as well as potential future contender Glaskov.

[Jewish-Reptile]

No he didn't.

Chisora was completely in the fight until Haye caught him, in fact, David Haye was blowing hard before the KO arrived. If the fight had gone on for much longer, Haye would've gassed and been knocked out. Fair play to Haye for getting the KO, but to say he made easy work of it is wrong.

The only boxer to completely dominate Chisora was Tyson Fury in their second fight.

Hadn't Haye not fought in over a year and of accounts are true Haye was actually fine dining on steak when Chisora caught up with him and demanded he face him ? Haye would have hardly been in top shape himself considering his lay off. The job he did on Chisora the effalump ain't never been the same thereafter, best run of his career or not, the guys Chisora was facing afterwards make Fury's record look stellar in contrast, these are guys Wach would have destroyed in ruthless fashion, without the controversy Chisora had with almost each victory.

Wach for me is far more impressive than Chisora, he can not only take a punch he can throw an almighty one too.

Uh uh. I said I have a hard time seeing Wlad emulate what Tyson was able to do to them, switch hitting, sticking and moving, combination punching from multiple angles etc. Of course he'd beat them, but he'd do it in his own boring fashion which doesn't need to be gone over at this stage. I thought I made that quite clear in my post, so I have to assume you're trying to be contentious for the sake of it.

So Klitschko destroying chumpy ass Chisora in 3 rounds would not emulate Fury putting on a clinic for ten rounds ?

[Elroy1]

Lol, I thought it was just a troll act, but it seems you are just a racist nutbag.

Wladimer has the best resume of all time?

El motherfucking Oh motherfucking El.

Wladimer couldn't compete in Ali's era.

Lewis would have murdered him.

He has dominated the weakest division in memory.

He is a formidable fighter, but not anywhere close to the best ever.

The best resume?

Oh wow, I had a laugh on that.

If Wlad competed in Ali's era, he would knock out every single opponent, most of them in the first round, including Ali, Norton, Frazier and probably even Foreman too, raise his KO ratio to 100% and everybody would complain that it is not fair. Sports science would evolve quickly and a cruiser or superheayweight division would be established to isolate Wlad and protect the little bummy fighters typical of the Ali era.

Lewis? Very even prospect that one.. these days it's obvious Wlad is the favourite though.

Best resume? By straight out mathematics, that is an empirical fact. By records and weights and by multiple level quality assessments.

And on closer inspection, the beaten opponents of Wlad would have in turn been HW champs of nearly every other era.

Racist? Source? Not likely!

Facts?? You bet cha!

[Fury4daWIN]

hes limited but better than chisora and cunningham. chisora is garbage and cunningham is too damn small

Who did Wach beat that suggests he's better than Chisora? Or that he's any less garbage? His best wins are Hammer, Tye Fields and Kevin McBride. Chisora at least has Scott and Helenius on his resume, plus a super strong showing against big brother Vit. Wach got obliterated when he fought little bro and made to look like an Easter Island punchbag.

[Elroy1]

Let's make one thing very clear...

Wladimir's Wach victory was worth far more than Fury's Chisora victory...

Wladimir's STAY BUSY interim opponent > Fury's best win!