Official Tyson Fury vs Wladimir Klitschko Post Fight Discussion Thread

[PainfromUkraine]

Stiverne is absolute garbage. So he beat Chris 'i ate all the buffet' Arreola a couple of times and he's suddenly elite? He got KTFO by a journeyman not long ago as well. Wilder literally fought a punching bag for 12 rounds.

But yes back on topic, people annoy me by claiming that Fury is a bum without providing any evidence or analysis.

"He punched himself in the face doe" - Fury has taken his boxing to another level since the start of his career.

"He got dropped by a cruiserweight doe" - The best punch USS has landed in his career, Fury got straight back up, pulled up his shorts and then put a savage beating on him. He was dropped more to bad footwork than anything else. He literally dropped his hands against Cunningham and ran at him. If people think Fury would fight likes of Wlad & Wilder the same wild way he fought USS, they know fook all about boxing.

And Wlad hasn't since his early career troubles? If we want to start calling Fury a completely different fighter who was dropped more to his own mistakes and was unlucky to punch himself in the face and blah blah and forget everything from the past, we might as well by that logic forget Wlad's past and call him undefeated 66-0 and not take into consideration mistakes he made in the past which led to him losing.

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And Wlad hasn't since his early career troubles? If we want to start calling Fury a completely different fighter who was dropped more to his own mistakes and was unlucky to punch himself in the face and blah blah and forget everything from the past, we might as well by that logic forget Wlad's past and call him undefeated 66-0 and not take into consideration mistakes he made in the past which led to him losing.

Absolutely. Only a fool would claim that Wlad hasn't improved since the start of his career.

[KnockoutNed]

Absolutely. Only a fool would claim that Wlad hasn't improved since the start of his career.

The extent in which he has improved is debatable. What is not debatable is that Klit has very little ability to fight on the backfoot(one of the few reasons why he clinches more than any other HW champ in history) and that he has no ability whatsoever to fight on the inside. His relative lack of skills in these areas among other factors will play an enormous role in the outcome of this fight, if the fight actually happens at all.

[Elroy1]

Yep all true.

And these are not to be taken as excuses for Fury or Wlad, boxing like any sport or anything is a learning curve.

I only seen Wlad get better.

And now, I've only seen Fury keep getting better also.

Did Fury build his record by exclusive padding? No. He beat gate keeper Chisora, a few other quality wins and was ****ed over by Haye, now he's getting ready for the big one. Let's not forget Chisroa exposed Helenius and held up against Vitali too.

At some point credit has to be given where it's due.

I think senseless rubbishing of current HW's careers in general is really bad for boxing, Wlad and Fury included but that's another story so I'll spare you all the preaching here

[beez721]

Tyra Fury will pound the Steelhammer with her ham hock fists.

The excuses in the papers the next day:

"Wladimir got old overnight."

thats about the only way I can see fury winning is if wlad finally shows his age and then some

[KnockoutNed]

85 % of posters on this thread are Fury doubters, I wouldn't say over 4/5 of the dudes who frequented this thread is few and far between !

Sure ppl are going to have a hard time seeing Klit lose because he's been around so long reigning on top of a dead division.

However besides of the few braindead Ktards, Fury is seen as a worthy title challenger(certainly head and shoulders above most of the skillless bums Klit has faced over most of his forgettable and unwatchable reign).
The only quality opponent he's faced since the Haye snoozefest was Povetkin who he clinched 189 times in 36 excruciating minutes because he hasn't the boxing skills to fight within the rules against anybody (he even had to excessively tie down 100-1 underdog 41yr former cruiser Mormeck).

When he tries that hugging business against Fury like he does against every single opponent he faces now, he is going to fail because he is going to be for once the smaller and weaker man. If he tries staying in a clinch with Fury, as the smaller man, he's the one who will be leaned on. He will also have to take bodyshots and uppercuts to his glass chin because he can't fight in close to save his life and Fury can.

[KnockoutNed]

Even if he tries to box Fury long he will fail as well. His reach is 5 inches shorter and he's slower in both hand and foot. Klit's jab is also grossly overrated. It only looks like a great jab because he's fighting guys who don't have good jabs and/or are immobile punching bags. Even the skilless cement footed bum Pulev was outjabbing him.

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KnockoutNed telling it how it is. I can't wait for this fight!!

[beez721]

Even if he tries to box Fury long he will fail as well. His reach is 5 inches shorter and he's slower in both hand and foot. Klit's jab is also grossly overrated. It only looks like a great jab because he's fighting guys who don't have good jabs and/or are immobile punching bags. Even the skilless cement footed bum Pulev was outjabbing him.

fury is not faster or even as fast as wlad of hands or feet. wlad is clearly quicker than fury

[KnockoutNed]

fury is not faster or even as fast as wlad of hands or feet. wlad is clearly quicker than fury

Klit is sometimes explosive with the jab and sometime with the right hand behind it. This of course works well against immobile punching bags. His combination punching outside of the 1-2 is relatively poor. He lacks punch variety. Doesn't punch to the body. Robotic stand up east german/soviet style with poor lateral movement.

Unlike Klit, Fury is very loose and relaxed in his movements. Fury is a superior combination puncher. Punches in combination faster than Klit. He throws more punches and from many different angles. Fury is all round the much better mover. Far superior lateral movement.