Official Tyson Fury vs Wladimir Klitschko Post Fight Discussion Thread

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    #1391
    Originally posted by It's Ovah
    Yeah, that's a distinct possibility.

    Master boxer at work folks.

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    • Elroy1
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      #1392
      The Wladimir self-assault was even more amusing than the Fury one

      But it is similarly meaningless when it comes to evaluating skills.

      Fighters don't throw to miss.

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        #1393
        Originally posted by Boxing Goat
        You also said Fury has more skill, is faster and has more power than Wladimir.

        I rest my case and let those who read this be the judge.

        Bwahahaha! Directly at you! Pathetic.
        I have never said that. Why are we lying now?

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          #1394
          Originally posted by Elroy1
          The concept is both simple and obvious...

          "Economy of style"

          You start with the full repetoire of stuff, you keep and refine that which works and begin to discard that which does not, and hence, skills are increased whilst variety actually does not.

          The proof is visible on screen, Klitschko LOOKS sharper than Fury who, like his ancient predecessor Ali, LOOKS sloppy.

          And the proof is also in the results. Klitschko has fought and defeated the most diverse range of styles of any boxer dominatingly, whilst Fury has so far only managed to outbox much smaller and mediocre opponents.

          You've just exposed yourself as a complete fool here!
          I have never said Fury is more skillful than Wladimir. Ever.

          But he does have/show greater variety of punches and style.

          Of course Wlad is the sharper, stronger guy. Never said he wasn't.

          But that bs about "economy of punches" is completely delusional. If he wasn't fighting fat turds with cement blocks for feet who can't fight at all, he would never have gotten away with the ****ty 1-2-grab (repeat).

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            #1395
            Originally posted by It's Ovah
            Yeah, that's a distinct possibility.

            At least Wlad dodged his own failed uppercut. Fury got it right on the chin.

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              #1396
              Originally posted by Boxing Goat
              At least Wlad dodged his own failed uppercut. Fury got it right on the chin.


              There was no dodging there fool. He gave himself a black eye.

              What's worse, Klitschko did it when he was a ten year world champion. Fury did it as a novice.
              Last edited by LacedUp; 08-27-2015, 09:20 AM.

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                #1397
                Originally posted by LacedUp


                There was no dodging there fool. He gave himself a black eye.

                What's worse, Klitschko did it when he was a ten year world champion. Fury did it as a novice.
                If Fury beats Wlad will he be a worse lineal champion than Michael Moorer?

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                  #1398
                  Originally posted by Pac=Duran
                  If Fury beats Wlad will he be a worse lineal champion than Michael Moorer?
                  Why was Moorer a horrible lineal champ?

                  Briggs is a much better example.

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                    #1399
                    Originally posted by LacedUp
                    I have never said Fury is more skillful than Wladimir. Ever.

                    But he does have/show greater variety of punches and style.

                    Of course Wlad is the sharper, stronger guy. Never said he wasn't.

                    But that bs about "economy of punches" is completely delusional. If he wasn't fighting fat turds with cement blocks for feet who can't fight at all, he would never have gotten away with the ****ty 1-2-grab (repeat).
                    No that's crap, you DID imply that variety of shots = greater skills (and hence Fury being greater skilled).

                    Oh and yeah right, all 70 Klitshko opponents were fat turds with cement block feet.

                    In reality every kind of imagiable opponent has been conquered by Klitschko from the awkward southpaw, to the slick counter-puncher to the menacing slugger, to the pressure fighter.

                    And more the point we are talking about the undisputable best resume of all time- completely objectively.

                    The minimalist style has proven to be the most difficult puzzle to crack in all of boxing history, that's just a plain fact!

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                      #1400
                      Originally posted by Elroy1
                      No that's crap, you DID imply that variety of shots = greater skills (and hence Fury being greater skilled).

                      Oh and yeah right, all 70 Klitshko opponents were fat turds with cement block feet.

                      In reality every kind of imagiable opponent has been conquered by Klitschko from the awkward southpaw, to the slick counter-puncher to the menacing slugger, to the pressure fighter.

                      And more the point we are talking about the undisputable best resume of all time- completely objectively.

                      The minimalist style has proven to be the most difficult puzzle to crack in all of boxing history, that's just a plain fact!
                      variet of shots DOES = higher skill.

                      The answer isn't as simple as whoever has a better repertoire of punches is the more skilled fighter, but your attempt to convince people that a smaller selection of punches is a sign of a more skilled fighter, and that skilled fighters "discard" punches they "don't need". That's the most ridiculous thing i've heard since some cat said Pac was a 32 time champion. Even at the highest level, or should I say especially at the highest level, you never "throw away" tools in you arsenal, you never know when you might need the based on the opponent or the nature of the fight.

                      It's another thing to be economical with your punches, and movement, and to only show certain punches and looks, but that's part of ring IQ, and that's another story entirely.

                      Honestly, you would be laughed out the door of my gym if you tried to tell bring that kind of logic around.

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