Andre Ward said in 2012 he'd fight anyone at 168 or 175

[The Big Dunn]

But the point of this thread is Andre Ward and his fans like yourself are always going on about GGG saying he'd fight anyone between 154 and 168.

It's hypocrisy when he says he'll fight anyone at 175, and then ducks Kovalev bashing Golovkin while calling out fighters from smaller divisions, saying they need to move up.

Ward isn't a very good Christian, remember "do onto others as you would have them do onto you"?

Andre Ward is a selfish prima donna who refuses to fight unless he had an advantage. He lacks a warriors' mentality.

So both ward and GGG do the same thing and Tunney only finds fault with Ward. Then labels ward the same way he does other black american fighters even though ward acts nothing like them.

Looks like Freedom2014 has morphed back into Tunney2008.

[The Hammer]

So both ward and GGG do the same thing and Tunney only finds fault with Ward.

No. You missed my point, which is this:

Ward goes on to the media time and again about GGG not wanting to fight him after saying he'd fight anybody, while at the same time he said he's fight anybody at 168 and 175, but has avoided Stevenson and Kovalev.

So what I'm saying is Ward is a hypocrite.

If Ward held Dawson to something he said in the heat of the moment after being baited by Kellerman, and if he holds GGG to something he said in a post-fight interview, explain why we shouldn't hold Ward to his word?

[The Big Dunn]

No. You missed my point, which is this:

Ward goes on to the media time and again about GGG not wanting to fight him after saying he'd fight anybody, while at the same time he said he's fight anybody at 168 and 175, but has avoided Stevenson and Kovalev.

So what I'm saying is Ward is a hypocrite.

If Ward held Dawson to something he said in the heat of the moment after being baited by Kellerman, and if he holds GGG to something he said in a post-fight interview, explain why we shouldn't hold Ward to his word?

Tunney-we all get your point. Its not hard to figure it out.

Since GGG is getting criticism for failing to live up to his words you are trying to make the issue ward's hypocrisy. Ward's past hypocrisy in no way absolves GGG for his.

Since most posters haven't fallen for your usual stuff-then you go with the catchall label you apply to black American fighters to again try and change the issue.

The main issue is and will always be GGG failing to live up to what he said. Period.

[sicko]

Andre Ward is a selfish prima donna who refuses to fight unless he had an advantage. He lacks a warriors' mentality.

#2 P4P in the world and cleaned out his division...AT LEAST HE EARNED THE RIGHT TO BE ONE unlike some who knock out a few average fighters and now think they are able to pick and choose fights based on who they can draw the most money with and who they match up better with

Through his Tournament, he came into it with NO BELT and finished that Tournament having ALL THE BELTS! Beating the #2 Best P4P Fighter is how you become a star and a draw as well so put pressure on those others fighters to TRY THEIR LUCK WITH WARD! And i don't want to hear about how Kessler and Froch want to fight but in Denmark or the UK...*** YOU they want revenge GO GET IT from the man that took your ***in Soul during the Super 6. YOU GO GET REVENGE, REVENGE DOESN'T COME TO YOU!

As for Kovalev, once again have haven't done anything in this sport yet, betting Hopkins a 50 Year Old Man would be his biggest accomplishment in boxing thus far LMFAO and for some reason Ward should be chasing this guy who is not even on his level? Not P4P Ranked Yet, Haven't Even Taken On The Best In His Division (other than Cleverly I guess lol), same for Stevenson, before knockout out Dawson last year NOBODY KNEW STEVENSON then all of a sudden he is worthy of big fights and fighting the best because he KO Ward Leftovers?

Ward is Proven, the guys you want him to chase down ARE NOT, Ward name was being used, guys say they want to fight but when J.Price or Goossen call their Camp it is nothing but excuses

[The Hammer]

Tunney-we all get your point. Its not hard to figure it out.

Since GGG is getting criticism for failing to live up to his words you are trying to make the issue ward's hypocrisy. Ward's past hypocrisy in no way absolves GGG for his.

Since most posters haven't fallen for your usual stuff-then you go with the catchall label you apply to black American fighters to again try and change the issue.

The main issue is and will always be GGG failing to live up to what he said. Period.

Then why do you support Ward failing to live up to what he said? Why is that not an issue?

And why are you so harshly negative about Golovkin, Wladimir, Kovalev etc while having nothing but kind words to post about Mayweather, Ward, etc?

[The Hammer]

IMO Ward beats every fighter 200 lbs. down.

At 168 down, maybe. As long as he doesn't need to leave California and he can have a home ref to permit him to use illegal tactics like deliberate head butts. He offered to fight Mayweather at 160.

[SUBZER0ED]

Ward hasn't fought anyone in nearly 9 months, except his promoter in court. He lost. Why are people arguing about him at this point? Right now, Andre Ward is a part-time announcer for other boxers' fights. Until he gets back in the ring, I really don't have much of an opinion of him as a boxer at all. End thread.

[The Big Dunn]

Then why do you support Ward failing to live up to what he said? Why is that not an issue?

And why are you so harshly negative about Golovkin, Wladimir, Kovalev etc while having nothing but kind words to post about Mayweather, Ward, etc?

I said he did the same as GGG and both should be criticized equally.

Its not an issue here on NSB right now because Ward is not fighting.

I haven't made many comments about Kovalev. I have given more credit than most GGG fans regarding his skill. wladimir is an over rated bum IMO yet I have him #3 in my p4p ranking.

I make very few comments about ward. I'm a big Floyd fan. what do you mean by etc-champions, American boxers, Olympians or something else? I ask because Floyd and ward occupy a lot of categories so I need specificity in order to properly answer.

Its posts like this that make people understand your real agenda Tunney.

[New England]

f#cking coward.


only kidding. princes are not cowardly.


the prince would whoop kovalchuck's ass. poopkins, too. you know it, i know it.

[Szef]

Then why do you support Ward failing to live up to what he said? Why is that not an issue?

And why are you so harshly negative about Golovkin, Wladimir, Kovalev etc while having nothing but kind words to post about Mayweather, Ward, etc?

They ain't slick enough and they ain't his brothas