Stop hyping "new" Cotto

[El Angel]

This is what you call 'logical fallacy.' If you can't see the speed, the lightness in his feet, the quickness in his reactions, the increase in his punching power - then you're a moron. Something is up and it isn't just his opposition the last two fights. His next match should make this overwhelmingly apparent.

If you're gonna accuse him of juicing, just come out and say it. You've been beating around the bush with that for months.

[Resilient]

This is what you call 'logical fallacy.' If you can't see the speed, the lightness in his feet, the quickness in his reactions, the increase in his punching power - then you're a moron. Something is up and it isn't just his opposition the last two fights. His next match should make this overwhelmingly apparent.

We shall see. But Martinez's legs were pretty clearly done, you could see this from the opening bell.

[BoxingLaw]

Well, he's the same Cotto, he's just beating some new ***.

Cotto is a really fun fighter to watch. If Cotto's fighting, then I'm watching. That's for sure.

I came to the conclusion (after 1000 PED discussions with my older bro) that it's unfair to accuse a fighter of taking PEDs when the only evidence to support such accusations are improvements in the ring i.e. seemingly more power, quicker hand speed etc…

imho Giving the fighter the benefit of the doubt when there is no shred of tangible evidence of PED use should be the best route.

Can you imagine if you were failing a class and you end up writing an A+ final research paper but the rest of the class thinks that you cheated when in reality you just worked your *** off?

Now, I'm sure I haven't read every single piece of news on Cotto so I'm not sure if he's ever been implicated in any PED use, so if he has, then my argument for him is moot. However, I haven't found anything like that.

[A-Wolf]

If you're gonna accuse him of juicing, just come out and say it. You've been beating around the bush with that for months.

Months? Since June 7th. "Something is up" is purely sufficient for now. That's all anyone knows. We'll see how this situation develops. If you're speaking as a fanboy save it.

[A-Wolf]

We shall see. But Martinez's legs were pretty clearly done, you could see this from the opening bell.

Did I say anything about Martinez's legs in that post? No. I didn't.

More 'logical fallacy' at work here.

[Resilient]

Did I say anything about Martinez's legs in that post? No. I didn't.

More 'logical fallacy' at work here.

I'm not using a logical fallacy. I'm not outright downplaying your accusations either.

But I'm well aware of how the state and quality of an opponent can make a guy look like a mini Tyson, much like how guys facing bums can look like monsters until they step up to the higher level.

[A-Wolf]

I'm not using a logical fallacy. I'm not outright downplaying your accusations either.

But I'm well aware of how the state and quality of an opponent can make a guy look like a mini Tyson, much like how guys facing bums can look like monsters until they step up to the higher level.

So I need your eyes to tell me something?

I'll pass.

[GhostBlade]

Canelo can take a punch, Cotto not nearly as well. If Cotto fights a fighter that can take a punch as good as he gives, he'll get seriously hurt. Cotto is tailor-made for Canelo. Canelo's last fights were against stylistic nightmares in Mayweather and Lara so fighting Cotto will be a walk in the park. Canelo by TKO.

[El Angel]

Months? Since June 7th. "Something is up" is purely sufficient for now. That's all anyone knows. We'll see how this situation develops. If you're speaking as a fanboy save it.

You were saying BEFORE the fight that you wouldn't be surprised if Cotto looked faster, stronger, and quicker than ever before while clearly insinuating you believed he was juicing.

Come out and accuse him.

[ChampBox@PR]

So we got idiots accusing Cotto of PEDs now? hahaha Excuses already?