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  • LouIE G
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    #61
    Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK
    Won't happen. People think Quigg is actually a real world champion. That's how he's been marketed and the Frampton fight will be sold as a unification. Sad but that's the way it is now.
    Damn everyone ducking rigo, best thing probly for him to do will be to move up to 126, theres sum big fights up there if nobody wants to fight him....i think lsc will be happy to oblige though

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    • CubanGuyNYC
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      #62
      Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK
      Won't happen. People think Quigg is actually a real world champion. That's how he's been marketed and the Frampton fight will be sold as a unification. Sad but that's the way it is now.
      Quigg fought to a draw with Yoandris Salinas. I saw that fight, and wasn't impressed with either man. Salinas just got KOed in 5 on the Canelo undercard by subpar opposition. Boxing is fucking sad, man. You've gotta dig through a giant pile of manure to find gold.

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        #63
        Originally posted by CubanGuyNYC
        It would be awesome if Rigo moved up and kicked ass at 126, but that idea concerns me. Guille is a tiny guy. As you said, his natural weight-class is 118. The guy is nothing but fast-twitch muscle fibre, head-to-toe. I don't think he can put on weight, even if he tried. Rigo's already giving up size at 122. He'd be giving up even more at 126. At featherweight, you've already got guys that can fight at 130, or even higher. I don't like it. But "El Chacal" would probably find more fights, so there's that.
        Salido vs. Lomachenko was a featherweight fight. Salido re-hydrated to 145 and Lomachenko to something like 138. I know Mares rehydrated to 138 against either Ponce or Jhonny.

        But those guys: Walters, Gradovich, Jhonny, Donaire, Vetyeka, Russell Jr., Lomachenko, are all pretty big featherweights. Walters looks like a welterweight in there. I don't know how that guy gets down to 126.

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          #64
          Originally posted by drenlou
          Damn everyone ducking rigo, best thing probly for him to do will be to move up to 126, theres sum big fights up there if nobody wants to fight him....i think lsc will be happy to oblige though
          Rigo's like 5'4", bro. He doesn't even have to cut weight to make 122, seriously. He'd still school 99.9% of the 126 division; but, against the best guys, he'd be giving up too much size. But that's just my opinion. Need makes greed. "El Chacal" might just do it. Who knows?

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            #65
            Originally posted by PBP
            Salido vs. Lomachenko was a featherweight fight. Salido re-hydrated to 145 and Lomachenko to something like 138. I know Mares rehydrated to 138 against either Ponce or Jhonny.

            But those guys: Walters, Gradovich, Jhonny, Donaire, Vetyeka, Russell Jr., Lomachenko, are all pretty big featherweights. Walters looks like a welterweight in there. I don't know how that guy gets down to 126.
            Yeah, man, Rigo could be giving up twenty pounds or more at times. That's just too much, IMO. Some of these guys kill themselves to make weight, seeking a size advantage. Guille probably has a steak and eggs breakfast the day of the weigh-in. lol

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              #66
              Originally posted by CubanGuyNYC
              Rigo's like 5'4", bro. He doesn't even have to cut weight to make 122, seriously. He'd still school 99.9% of the 126 division; but, against the best guys, he'd be giving up too much size. But that's just my opinion. Need makes greed. "El Chacal" might just do it. Who knows?
              If prince naseem hamed(5'4 1/2) could do it, rigo can do it too!!!

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                #67
                Originally posted by PBP
                Salido vs. Lomachenko was a featherweight fight. Salido re-hydrated to 145 and Lomachenko to something like 138. I know Mares rehydrated to 138 against either Ponce or Jhonny.

                But those guys: Walters, Gradovich, Jhonny, Donaire, Vetyeka, Russell Jr., Lomachenko, are all pretty big featherweights. Walters looks like a welterweight in there. I don't know how that guy gets down to 126.
                I don't think Russell Jr is a big FW tbh.

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                  #68
                  Originally posted by .:: JSFD26 ::.
                  I don't think Russell Jr is a big FW tbh.
                  I agree, russell is just a natural featherweight...hes about as short as rigo

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                    #69
                    Originally posted by .:: JSFD26 ::.
                    Once again, I agree with you especially the part that Leo's power is overrated. I don't agree with Leo winning but I don't have a problem with that. A SD in his favor is very possible. He says he wants to go all the way up to 140 but I think we all know his power isn't gonna carry and with his style how is he gonna win (vs top guys) if he doesn't have the power?

                    There's so many ****ing fights to be made at 122 but none of these guys are fighting each other (except Kiko and Frampton). Props to Kiko tho, he's been traveling making things happen. The Romero win was great cause I thought he was one of the top guys and Kiko manhandled him. And we know what happened to Mathebula too.
                    Lol at Leo moving up in weight till 140. He is a big SBW but I don't see his power carrying past 126, tops. He isn't technical enough to box his way up and his style will only lead to an early retirement in the higher weights, especially against men who are in their proper weight class. I like LSC but I just hate the fact that his resume has no name on it that matters, yet he seems content with that. At 126 he won't have many bottom dwellers to munch on and then that's when we will see what he is really made of. Btw Kiko is on a rampage doe, kinda nervous for my boy Frampton but I know we will get the W.

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                      #70
                      Originally posted by CubanGuyNYC
                      Yeah, man, Rigo could be giving up twenty pounds or more at times. That's just too much, IMO. Some of these guys kill themselves to make weight, seeking a size advantage. Guille probably has a steak and eggs breakfast the day of the weigh-in. lol
                      126 would be like swimming in shark infested waters while dragging a dead tuna. One false move and Rigo can really get hurt. However, that's if they can tag Rigo clean. Rigo can outbox damn near anyone from any weight on a pfp setting but once you give up too much height and weight advantage, skills can easily be trumped with one power shot. I love Rigo but I would like for him to either move back down to his natural weight or remain at 122.. 126 is festered with men who kill themselves to have an advantage on fight night.

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