Is Canelo Now P4P Top 10?

[soul_survivor]

He beat Miguel Vasquez twice, once in a 4 rounder at 140lbs and again in a 10 rounder at 148lbs.

PFP? I think he's a clear win or two away from it.

Yeah but tbf that was veryyyyy early in both their careers, can't take either fight seriously although it's a good name to have.

But how can you say he is a win or two away, he has just beaten 3 of the top 4 best guys in the division. what more can he do? he is almost unbeatable at 154 apart from mayweather and possibly lara in a rematch...there's not too many guys in other divisions that can beat him either.

I agree with this..

why do you agree with mikey being a p4p top 10 guy ?

[Beater_of_ass]

ward's resume is one of the best ever at 168, and it's better than froch's.


i don't know how anybody can value froch so highly, and call ward's resume bad. ward fought froch at the height of his powers, and annihilated him.



as for danny, you have to value highest in a p4p list a fighter's last fight. danny should have lost to herrera, who is nobody special. herrera lost to mayfield, and prior to that he lost to alvarado.

mikey garcia beat the garbage out of salido, who went on to beat loma and that ***** guy. he also beat two 130 lbers who were champs in burgos and maritnez.


p4p lists are about the next fight. what have you done lately, and how good do i think you are based on that?

He is inactive, I would call him closer to retired than an active fighter. The super six was 5 years ago, he beat Dawson (made him come down 7 pounds) and the last guy he fought was Edwin Rodriguez. He also is saying guys who have never fought at 168 (GGG) are ducking him expecting them to move up, yet he won't move up to 175.

[Beater_of_ass]

I was looking at the PfP lists and noticed Ward is still top 5 or so***8230; yet Canelo has fought Trout,Mayweather,Angulo and Lara in a year and a half or so and he is still yet to crack top 10

Only one of those guys were ranked in the P4P rankings and Canelo couldn't even win a round. You can put Floyd in there with ANY of the top 10 P4P guys and even he would at least win a round, even against Wlad. Not to mention the only guy he convincgly beat was a washed up, C-class, never has been and never will be. If that's P4P material you guys have some pretty ****ty standards.

[Public_Enemy]

I would put Canelo on the list somewhere between 8-10. Everyone's list will vary but I have no problem with Canelo, Roman Gonzalez, Froch, D. Garcia and Cotto being on the bottom of PFP lists.

Canelo has a close win over an undefeated Trout that just beat Cotto and his only other loss was a bad style matchup against Lara. He destroyed Angulo. Then he has a close victory (could've gone either way) over Lara who has never been beaten legitimately beaten before and is hard to look good against. And finally has the Mayweather loss which doesn't hurt his standing much.

Mikey Garcia should be in the top 15 I think but not top 10. He has good wins over Salido, Martinez and Burgos and a decent win over Juan Ma (and he won in spectacular fashion as well). Estrada is another name who should be in the top 15.