My take on Lara vs canelo

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  • DannYankee
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    #11
    Canelo landed 15 head shots all fight. Case closed.

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    • Wuckoo
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      #12
      Last I checked body counts too. If you hit me once in the head and I cleanly hit you 5 times in the body, does that mean you win? Of course not. Believe me I thought Lara would win. I wanted him to win. As I was scoring I was trying to find all kinds of reasons to give Lara a round here and there. But I couldn't ignore canelo's combinations and the fact that he was much more active.

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      • B-Bomber
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        #13
        Originally posted by Wuckoo
        Last I checked body counts too. If you hit me once in the head and I cleanly hit you 5 times in the body, does that mean you win? Of course not. Believe me I thought Lara would win. I wanted him to win. As I was scoring I was trying to find all kinds of reasons to give Lara a round here and there. But I couldn't ignore canelo's combinations and the fact that he was much more active.
        Except he wasn't , 415 punches against 386 is not being much more active. they both threw little enough and Lara was much more accurate.

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        • Facade
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          #14
          Originally posted by Wuckoo
          Last I checked body counts too. If you hit me once in the head and I cleanly hit you 5 times in the body, does that mean you win? Of course not. Believe me I thought Lara would win. I wanted him to win. As I was scoring I was trying to find all kinds of reasons to give Lara a round here and there. But I couldn't ignore canelo's combinations and the fact that he was much more active.
          That's a faulty comparison, because Lara landed more overall. Your comparison would only make sense if Canelo landed five times more to the body than Lara did to the head... This is however not the case.

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          • Wuckoo
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            #15
            Originally posted by Facade
            That's a faulty comparison, because Lara landed more overall. Your comparison would only make sense if Canelo landed five times more to the body than Lara did to the head... This is however not the case.
            No, I'm not literally saying that's what happened. I was just saying body shots count too. I agree overall they both threw around the same amount of punches over the course of the fight. But you can't honestly say that Lara was active enough in the later rounds. It's the amount of punches you throw and land within the round. Lara didn't land enough per round to win the later rounds. That's what I'm trying to say. Yeah, he was using good footwork but there were moments when he could have thrown but didn't.

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            • Bigg Rigg
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              #16
              7-5 decision for Lara. I can't find the 7 rds to give Canelo unless Im being bias and the judge who gave Canelo 9 rds was drinking too much lean lastnight.

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              • soul_survivor
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                #17
                Originally posted by MPX309
                Lara took the first 3 I agree and it looked like a good game plan, but I have to disagree later on, he was pretty much on his bike with not alot coming back, some small flashes but absolutely no in the pocket game at all. His so called footwork turned into sprinting, it didn't look like he wanted to engage with Canelo at all. . . . I'm not sayin he should have gone to war, but there were several missed opportunities for landing clean effective counters which could have got him a decision in the end. . . there were parts of the fight between round where he genuinely looked like he was struggling, almost fighting scared.
                spot on!!

                After the first 3 rounds I thought Lara had it in the bag but Canelo is a dog, he knows how to out muscle and out hustle guys and he started doing that to Lara and the Cuban couldn't take it...or maybe he didn't want to take it.

                Great boxers have good technical skills (Lara) but they also know how to get dirty and fight like a rabid dog (not Lara).

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                • Wuckoo
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                  #18
                  But it's blatantly obvious that oscar paid off that judge from New Mexico. I'm surprised that more people haven't called him out on it. 117-111 is a redicilous score

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                  • Wuckoo
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by soul_survivor
                    spot on!!

                    After the first 3 rounds I thought Lara had it in the bag but Canelo is a dog, he knows how to out muscle and out hustle guys and he started doing that to Lara and the Cuban couldn't take it...or maybe he didn't want to take it.

                    Great boxers have good technical skills (Lara) but they also know how to get dirty and fight like a rabid dog (not Lara).
                    Yep, this pretty much sums up how I saw the fight too.

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                    • MindBat
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                      #20
                      I believe Lara relied solely on trying to impress the crowd and the judges with his mostly defensive style. Not good judgement when you're fighting in your opponent's basically home town.

                      Lara should've realized that leaving the fight in the judges hands to score would've been a risky proposition that may not have favored him. And that's what turned out to be the case.

                      He should've fought more offensive/aggressive-minded if he planned to win strictly on points and not by KO.

                      Fight could've gone either way if the 117-111 judge wasn't so biased for Canelo.

                      Canelo applied the pressure and connected effectively in several rounds.

                      I suppose Ronnie's strategy was merely to box from the outside and win it on points.

                      Ain't gonna get you the win if you're not as skilled as Money Mayweather who would've fought a smarter fight last night.

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