What does PEDs actually do? does it make fighters punch harder?

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  • Evol
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    #61
    Originally posted by The Big Dunn
    I didn't complain about watching a crap fight-I asked you why you can't admit you're a huge manny fan and thats why you are watching this fight if it happens.

    So you are a casual fan that niether loves the sport or manny. ok. got it.
    so are u a huge manny fan too then since u're gonna be watching this fight?

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      #62
      Originally posted by The Big Dunn
      I didn't complain about watching a crap fight-I asked you why you can't admit you're a huge manny fan and thats why you are watching this fight if it happens.

      So you are a casual fan that niether loves the sport or manny. ok. got it.
      u didnt complain? so why do i need to be a big manny fan to watch this fight then? LOL!!!!

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      • The Big Dunn
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        #63
        Originally posted by Evol
        so are u a huge manny fan too then since u're gonna be watching this fight?
        I wont be watching.

        Originally posted by Evol
        u didnt complain? so why do i need to be a big manny fan to watch this fight then? LOL!!!!
        you don't need to be-you are. Because you are is the reason you will watch and the reason you have been posting crap like "live and hungry" and "difficult style matchup".

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        • Luilun
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          #64
          Originally posted by Southpaw110
          I don't get it what does peds do? i know it makes them have more stamina but does it increase their punching power as well?
          Punch harder, better chin more stamina, examples Mosley stamina chin,power against Margarito. Mosley against Mayweather Smaller getting push around by the roided Mayweather, tired after two rounds, head getting snap back. Mayweather a twig at 25 when testosterone is at it's greatest Had trouble with Jesus Chavez, Carlos Famous Hernadez and got his butt kick by Paul Spadafora. Mayweather when he moved up to welter and Jr Middle More Muscular even though testosterone is suppose to decline, took punches well from bigger guys stamina is excellent even at 37 years even though great fighter of the past like Ali, Louis were shells of their former self

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          • Evol
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            #65
            Originally posted by The Big Dunn
            I wont be watching.



            you don't need to be-you are. Because you are is the reason you will watch and the reason you have been posting crap like "live and hungry" and "difficult style matchup".
            u wont be watching? so there will be no response from u what so ever after the fight then correct? u wont even catch the replay, nada! correct? so explain why algieri's style will be easy for manny again? because i always thought manny had trouble with guys that dont stand in front of him? which one is it?

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            • Cuauhtémoc1520
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              #66
              Originally posted by Luilun
              Punch harder, better chin more stamina, examples Mosley stamina chin,power against Margarito. Mosley against Mayweather Smaller getting push around by the roided Mayweather, tired after two rounds, head getting snap back. Mayweather a twig at 25 when testosterone is at it's greatest Had trouble with Jesus Chavez, Carlos Famous Hernadez and got his butt kick by Paul Spadafora. Mayweather when he moved up to welter and Jr Middle More Muscular even though testosterone is suppose to decline, took punches well from bigger guys stamina is excellent even at 37 years even though great fighter of the past like Ali, Louis were shells of their former self
              There is ZERO evidence that steroids can give you a better chin. There are many different PED's and different effects.

              Testosterone substitutes for example, can make you stronger, and build lean muscle faster.

              Growth hormone can actually heal you faster, make you "younger" in effect.

              Also, different men age differently. There isn't one age where you start to decline as we have seen with Mayweather and Hopkins. Some fighters reach 30 and are done, some reach the same age and are just getting started.

              This isn't a clear cut question.

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                #67
                Originally posted by Cuauhtémoc1520
                There is ZERO evidence that steroids can give you a better chin. There are many different PED's and different effects.

                Testosterone substitutes for example, can make you stronger, and build lean muscle faster.

                Growth hormone can actually heal you faster, make you "younger" in effect.

                Also, different men age differently. There isn't one age where you start to decline as we have seen with Mayweather and Hopkins. Some fighters reach 30 and are done, some reach the same age and are just getting started.

                This isn't a clear cut question.
                Mayweather and Hopkins are both users are you that ****** to believe that after 100 years of boxing everyone declines expect Mayweather and Hopkins. What do they have in their DNA a reverse clock ? Its HGH if you don't know not genetics if so than Roger and Floyd Sr would have been boxing into their late 30's

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                • Beercules
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                  #68
                  They shrink your balls

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                  • DeadLikeMe
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                    #69
                    They can increase stamina and allow for longer training. The increased stamina from EPO could very likely allow them to be hitting harder, later into a match. So I guess technically the fatigue prevention gained from some PEDs would allow you to hit harder at times where your punches would normally be losing some pop.

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                    • Butt stuff
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                      #70
                      Originally posted by Badzi87
                      Yeah but Cheaterson didnt improve his power in any way he struggled to hurt Khan even while using PEDs!

                      JMMs KO of Pac was being overhyped, it's obvious there are certain benefits of using steroids, but it is in my opinion not that im disrespectful of anyone elses, but in my opinion its used by boxers in 126/154 lbs for increased recovery rates and assistance in shedding the weight quicker. The strength gains from the steroids I have knowledge of just doesnt indicate the massive punching power gains, I think its more a major boost in endurance and muscle fatigue.

                      Who knows today there are probably steroids that make you put no water weight on at all but let you benchpress from 240lbs to 300lbs with one course, and remain undetectable.
                      PEDs whilst trying to cut weight might not improve punching power, but having almost limitless stamina for 12 rounds means you can throw constant bombs without becoming fatigued which would give the impression of improved power

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