What does PEDs actually do? does it make fighters punch harder?

[DannYankee]

Yes a better answer above...

I focussed on steroid and hgh.

Your claims on hgh to punch harder though are related to crude muscle weight.

testosterone is the natural steroid. Synthetic steroids are better, they have enhanced anabolic (repair, recovery and muscle growth) capabilities, useful for all classes of boxer.

I had not heard of the erythropotein. Obviously cheating for any sustained activity.

This is a great documentary for people to understand the PED culture in america the conflict between being the best vs doing the right thing, and the payoffs that many stars have enjoyed from juicing. How in some sports athlete's feel is essential and just part of the sport because PED users dont always go down in flames sometimes they end up Governo's of California.




It's not always black and white and the "bad guys" do win in the real world, so whats a "good guy" to do while getting stomped for doing the right thing by the book while the competition gets all the glory and no punishment.

And there lies the dilemma of all sports when it comes to PED'S.

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In short different steroids have different effects and it would almost entirely depend a lot on your genetics.
A boxer like say Manny Pacquaio (fast and explosive) will have a lot more fast twitch muscle fibers than a slower concussive puncher in say an Angulo.

In conjunction with boxing training and explosive routines yes I imagine there would be some increase in punching power, how much is anybodies guess but they certainly wouldn't turn you from a Paulie to a Tommy Hearns.

Its a very complex subject and its not really known to my knowledge if you can change the fibers from one to the other, you can however increase them ofc

Maybe somebody else could give a more definitive answer but in regards to punching power exclusively I am not sure its something that has been widely researched.

Taking Steroids for people in weightclasses below 160 wont really improve any sort of punching power in my opinion. Simply because to add strength you will have to give away speed or stamina. Steroids that add great strength usually add muscle mass too, which boxers in the lower division dont need.

However there is a PED known as ****** AKA Var that's got incredible strength building agents, also known to add minimal weight and also help strip fat off the stomach. The only thing is if a boxer used Var he would need atleast 6wks to leave his system completely.

Saying that nowadays companies are manufacturing gear that is undetectable so who knows
Boxers I know and MMA fighters who have used gear state they didn't notice any huge punching power gains. They always state increased endurance and better focus due to elevated testosterone.

[New England]

can make you run faster, hit baseballs further, train harder, not break down.,

hmmmmmmmmmmmm


of course they can in the proper context.
of course.

[New England]

Taking Steroids for people in weightclasses below 160 wont really improve any sort of punching power in my opinion. Simply because to add strength you will have to give away speed or stamina. Steroids that add great strength usually add muscle mass too, which boxers in the lower division dont need.

However there is a PED known as ****** AKA Var that's got incredible strength building agents, also known to add minimal weight and also help strip fat off the stomach. The only thing is if a boxer used Var he would need atleast 6wks to leave his system completely.

Saying that nowadays companies are manufacturing gear that is undetectable so who knows
Boxers I know and MMA fighters who have used gear state they didn't notice any huge punching power gains. They always state increased endurance and better focus due to elevated testosterone.

lamont peterson.


juan manuel marquez.

[SplitSecond]

like it says, enhances your performance, thus, faster, stronger, more durability, more endurance, more stamina, more energy

[wiz1030]

PED stands for "performance enhancing drug" And there is more than 1 for more than one thing.

For example:
Erythropoietin (EPO), is used by athletes to increase the number of red blood cells in their circulatory system which are available to carry oxygen. Meaning go more rounds no fatigue. This was one of the PED's Lance Armstrong used the most.

Testosterone
An anabolic agent and can increase muscle mass and strength. In smaller doses anabolic agents such as testosterone can promote muscle recovery from strenuous exercise and increase endurance.

HGH probably the one that fits the bill the most as to help "Punch harder"

Human growth hormone is improperly used in sport to increase strength and lean muscle mass, to assist in weight loss and promote recovery.


As you can see there are many different flavor of PED's that can help in different areas.

Great post. Testosterone seems to be the most abused currently in most sports because of it's fast-acting, meaning you can take a dose and later that day testosterone levels can return to normal. Coupled with the fact that testosterone is often prescribed because many men suffer from "Low T" and they can just run to a doctor and get some.

There's so many forms of it too. They actually have candies and suckers that athletes can take for the fast acting method (see Ryan Braun in MLB) or time-release pellets that Lamont Peterson was dumb enough to get caught with.


Like you mentioned, testosterone provides advantages in muscle recovery and endurance. The difference between a fighter having a full training camp bolstered with testosterone vs. without it could be huge.

[soul_survivor]

I don't get it what does peds do? i know it makes them have more stamina but does it increase their punching power as well?

It depends on what type of PEDs are being used. Certain endurance athletes use EPO to increase their RBC count, which, to cut all the science short, allows you to have greater stamina. Some boxers may use that too.

In terms of strength and power, it all comes from muscle growth and tone, well in most cases (here's looking at you Naz). What can increase muscle mass? Steroids. These drugs allow for greater muscle growth per work out session compared to someone who may not be taking steroids, there are also drugs which help with recovery times, so these athletes, on these very particular and at times hard to detect PEDs, can go harder in the gym, for longer over a consistent period of time.

However, PEDs are not miracles, you have to put in the work and the diet along with it. So it's not like injecting yourself and all of a sudden becoming superman, the right training and the right nutrition is is needed.

PEDs do not create super humans but they do enhance what athletes already have...key word athlete. These men and women have spent their lives dedicated to a sport, fine tuning their body, looking in great shape, feeling great and doing things we could only dream of. So all these athletes need is that little extra help and they can become superior to their contemporaries, look at 100m sprinters who were banned for PED use just last year, they were making records tumble left, right and center. Never before, in the history of athletics, have so many 100m sprinters run a race below 10seconds...now it seemed almost everyone in the top 10 had and the majority of those tested positive.

^^^ That is a prime example of what PEDs can do.

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lamont peterson.


juan manuel marquez.

Yeah but Cheaterson didnt improve his power in any way he struggled to hurt Khan even while using PEDs!

JMMs KO of Pac was being overhyped, it's obvious there are certain benefits of using steroids, but it is in my opinion not that im disrespectful of anyone elses, but in my opinion its used by boxers in 126/154 lbs for increased recovery rates and assistance in shedding the weight quicker. The strength gains from the steroids I have knowledge of just doesnt indicate the massive punching power gains, I think its more a major boost in endurance and muscle fatigue.

Who knows today there are probably steroids that make you put no water weight on at all but let you benchpress from 240lbs to 300lbs with one course, and remain undetectable.

[SplitSecond]

Yeah but Cheaterson didnt improve his power in any way he struggled to hurt Khan even while using PEDs!

JMMs KO of Pac was being overhyped, it's obvious there are certain benefits of using steroids, but it is in my opinion not that im disrespectful of anyone elses, but in my opinion its used by boxers in 126/154 lbs for increased recovery rates and assistance in shedding the weight quicker. The strength gains from the steroids I have knowledge of just doesnt indicate the massive punching power gains, I think its more a major boost in endurance and muscle fatigue.

Who knows today there are probably steroids that make you put no water weight on at all but let you benchpress from 240lbs to 300lbs with one course, and remain undetectable.

marquez is likely on alot of drugs, all while training for "power"<--keyword, power = speed x strength

PEDerson looked to me like he was just on testosterone, which will give you a shredded look, test burns fat like a mofo, ups your strength a bit too, but PEDerson doesn't train for strength, and he doesn't know how to use his power(bad punching form), infact his tendons seem weak, guy would do well to go on a strength program

[New England]

Yeah but Cheaterson didnt improve his power in any way he struggled to hurt Khan even while using PEDs!

JMMs KO of Pac was being overhyped, it's obvious there are certain benefits of using steroids, but it is in my opinion not that im disrespectful of anyone elses, but in my opinion its used by boxers in 126/154 lbs for increased recovery rates and assistance in shedding the weight quicker. The strength gains from the steroids I have knowledge of just doesnt indicate the massive punching power gains, I think its more a major boost in endurance and muscle fatigue.

Who knows today there are probably steroids that make you put no water weight on at all but let you benchpress from 240lbs to 300lbs with one course, and remain undetectable.

peterson absolutely punched harder in the khan fight.

likewise with marquez after hooking up with heredia.


go watch the mayweahter fight, and hten the fourth pacquiao fight. that's the same fighter after aging several years.


steroids have evolved. they don't just turn you into the hulk any longer. you can get leaner, stay in your weight class, and pack on lean muscle, regardless of age. you can train strength and power longer and without breaking down from your regular work in the boxing gym. that will increase your punching power. they can make you stronger and faster, without pushing you up in weight. if you do go up in weight, they can help you safely make it to your weigh in before ballooning up, allowing you to fight smaller guys while being bigger yourself, IE letting you punch harder.

i don't think chavez jr is a great puncher, i think he's a cruiserweight who uses drugs to fight middleweights.


it's naive to think that you can use steroids to hit a baseball further, and can't improve your punching power at all.


now, do i think steroids at this point, or probably ever, will turn paulie into hearns? no. is it immpossible to increase your power with the proper chemicals / hormones stacked on top of eachother? of course not.