Lennox Lewis - How good was he?

Collapse
Collapse
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts
  • M Bison
    Perfect, but you're not
    Unified Champion - 10,00-20,000 posts
    • Mar 2012
    • 15677
    • 600
    • 798
    • 32,424

    #431
    Originally posted by Elroy1
    Johnson - Excellent counterpuncher, slick, 260lbs, excellent record
    Sanders - tall, aggressive southpaw, lightening fast, power punching
    Williams - 270lbs, KOd Tyson!
    Peter - HW champ, solid record, very powerful, solid chin
    Gomez - Great record, skilled opponent
    Arreola - Tough, durable tall powerful fighter with good record and speed
    Johnson - Hulking boxer, decent record (comparable to Bruno!)
    Sosnowski - Good strong fighter
    Briggs - Former champ, hulking, veteran
    Solis - High skills, heavy good record
    Adamek - Mulitple CW champ, good chin and counterpunch skills and good record
    Chisora - Much better than record shows
    Charr - strong opponent with good record.

    Yeah Bruno couldn't hold a candle to any of these guys could he..

    Bruno would be no more prominent on VK's record than Kingpin Johnson! Fact!
    Let them have their little minute in the sun, they're letting nationalism rule their head, its nothing but blatant utter bias.

    If you dissect Lewis resume further you realize its not that good and that just because a lot of his fights were more entertaining/competitive it doesn't make him the better fighter...
    A better fighter would be shutting guys out, Lewis fought big names but when did he fight them?
    • Tyson - Near end of the road
    • Morrison - He drew with Ross Purrity prior to fighting LL, I thought RS won that fight.
    • Holyfield - Wasn't totally past his prime years but he wasn't what he use to be
    • Rahman - Lost to Maskaev who people on here mock but legit win for LL?
    • Frank Bruno - He never was truly that good and once again SLOPPY seconds, Mike Tyson dominate him yet here LL is feasting off Mikes left-overs?
    • Oliver McCall - Basically a journey man just like Rahman who both were capable of putting LL to sleep


    There is a lot of BS on his record If we're going to judge it the way you judge the two most dominant heavyweights ever.

    When we judge it with Vitali and Lennox we look at -
    Who was greater stylistically?
    Who shut out his opponents better?
    Who finished their career on a greater note?
    Who is more relevant to the sport of boxing right now?

    All those questions can easily be answered with Vitali Klitschko.

    Comment

    • GhostBlade
      Undisputed Champion
      Platinum Champion - 1,000-5,000 posts
      • Sep 2013
      • 1352
      • 44
      • 0
      • 7,514

      #432
      Lennox would no doubt beat Bowe. Bowe isn't good at fighting guys who are just as big as him and can hit as hard as him or even harder. He psychologically shuts down and this is why I think Lewis would beat Bowe with ease. Lewis was without a doubt a top 10 all-time heavyweight in terms of that he could go in the ring with almost any heavyweight in history and have a good chance at beating them.

      Comment

      • LacedUp
        Still Smokin'
        Franchise Champion - 20,000+ posts
        • Oct 2009
        • 29171
        • 781
        • 381
        • 132,163

        #433
        Originally posted by Red Cyclone
        Let them have their little minute in the sun, they're letting nationalism rule their head, its nothing but blatant utter bias.

        If you dissect Lewis resume further you realize its not that good and that just because a lot of his fights were more entertaining/competitive it doesn't make him the better fighter...
        A better fighter would be shutting guys out, Lewis fought big names but when did he fight them?
        • Tyson - Near end of the road
        • Morrison - He drew with Ross Purrity prior to fighting LL, I thought RS won that fight.
        • Holyfield - Wasn't totally past his prime years but he wasn't what he use to be
        • Rahman - Lost to Maskaev who people on here mock but legit win for LL?
        • Frank Bruno - He never was truly that good and once again SLOPPY seconds, Mike Tyson dominate him yet here LL is feasting off Mikes left-overs?
        • Oliver McCall - Basically a journey man just like Rahman who both were capable of putting LL to sleep


        There is a lot of BS on his record If we're going to judge it the way you judge the two most dominant heavyweights ever.

        When we judge it with Vitali and Lennox we look at -
        Who was greater stylistically?
        Who shut out his opponents better?
        Who finished their career on a greater note?
        Who is more relevant to the sport of boxing right now?

        All those questions can easily be answered with Vitali Klitschko.

        Comment

        • yoz
          Yoz
          Super Champion - 5,000-10,000 posts
          • May 2011
          • 8617
          • 439
          • 427
          • 16,868

          #434
          Originally posted by Red Cyclone
          Let them have their little minute in the sun, they're letting nationalism rule their head, its nothing but blatant utter bias.

          If you dissect Lewis resume further you realize its not that good and that just because a lot of his fights were more entertaining/competitive it doesn't make him the better fighter...
          A better fighter would be shutting guys out, Lewis fought big names but when did he fight them?
          • Tyson - Near end of the road
          • Morrison - He drew with Ross Purrity prior to fighting LL, I thought RS won that fight.
          • Holyfield - Wasn't totally past his prime years but he wasn't what he use to be
          • Rahman - Lost to Maskaev who people on here mock but legit win for LL?
          • Frank Bruno - He never was truly that good and once again SLOPPY seconds, Mike Tyson dominate him yet here LL is feasting off Mikes left-overs?
          • Oliver McCall - Basically a journey man just like Rahman who both were capable of putting LL to sleep


          There is a lot of BS on his record If we're going to judge it the way you judge the two most dominant heavyweights ever.

          When we judge it with Vitali and Lennox we look at -
          Who was greater stylistically?
          Who shut out his opponents better?
          Who finished their career on a greater note?
          Who is more relevant to the sport of boxing right now?

          All those questions can easily be answered with Vitali Klitschko.
          A controversial win against Manuel Charr.

          Comment

          • M Bison
            Perfect, but you're not
            Unified Champion - 10,00-20,000 posts
            • Mar 2012
            • 15677
            • 600
            • 798
            • 32,424

            #435
            Originally posted by yoz
            A controversial win against Manuel Charr.
            "look at the state of his face though, I was clearly getting to him..."

            "Look at his face"

            "Listen he would of got knocked out *puff* *puff* *weeze* yeah I was getting to him and he would of steamed *more heavy breathing* look at state o face"

            Comment

            • Mr.Fantastic
              .............
              Super Champion - 5,000-10,000 posts
              • Jun 2009
              • 7171
              • 318
              • 894
              • 14,672

              #436
              Great for his division but not that great. Tier 3 type of HW.

              Comment

              • LacedUp
                Still Smokin'
                Franchise Champion - 20,000+ posts
                • Oct 2009
                • 29171
                • 781
                • 381
                • 132,163

                #437
                Originally posted by Red Cyclone
                "look at the state of his face though, I was clearly getting to him..."

                "Look at his face"

                "Listen he would of got knocked out *puff* *puff* *weeze* yeah I was getting to him and he would of steamed *more heavy breathing* look at state o face"
                Vitali's 2-3 cuts were 1 million times worse than Charr's face.

                Where's the rematch though? Vitali ducking Charr.

                Charr put Vitali into retirement.

                Comment

                • Elroy1
                  Undisputed Champion
                  Super Champion - 5,000-10,000 posts
                  • Jun 2014
                  • 6561
                  • 237
                  • 61
                  • 14,370

                  #438
                  Originally posted by Red Cyclone
                  Let them have their little minute in the sun, they're letting nationalism rule their head, its nothing but blatant utter bias.

                  If you dissect Lewis resume further you realize its not that good and that just because a lot of his fights were more entertaining/competitive it doesn't make him the better fighter...
                  A better fighter would be shutting guys out, Lewis fought big names but when did he fight them?
                  • Tyson - Near end of the road
                  • Morrison - He drew with Ross Purrity prior to fighting LL, I thought RS won that fight.
                  • Holyfield - Wasn't totally past his prime years but he wasn't what he use to be
                  • Rahman - Lost to Maskaev who people on here mock but legit win for LL?
                  • Frank Bruno - He never was truly that good and once again SLOPPY seconds, Mike Tyson dominate him yet here LL is feasting off Mikes left-overs?
                  • Oliver McCall - Basically a journey man just like Rahman who both were capable of putting LL to sleep


                  There is a lot of BS on his record If we're going to judge it the way you judge the two most dominant heavyweights ever.

                  When we judge it with Vitali and Lennox we look at -
                  Who was greater stylistically?
                  Who shut out his opponents better?
                  Who finished their career on a greater note?
                  Who is more relevant to the sport of boxing right now?

                  All those questions can easily be answered with Vitali Klitschko.
                  Yes, I find him hard to go past..

                  But they will cook up the old chest nut "VK didn't fight hardly any champions"

                  Again, that's because those 2nd and 3rd tier champs Lewis fought were only "champs" because the top dogs LOST frequently back then.

                  The Klitschko's are being penalised for NOT losing. The logic is ridiculous.

                  If I hear one more nutbag carp on about ATG's man I'm gonna be hanging from a tree! LOL

                  Comment

                  • Elroy1
                    Undisputed Champion
                    Super Champion - 5,000-10,000 posts
                    • Jun 2014
                    • 6561
                    • 237
                    • 61
                    • 14,370

                    #439
                    Originally posted by GhostBlade
                    Lennox would no doubt beat Bowe. Bowe isn't good at fighting guys who are just as big as him and can hit as hard as him or even harder. He psychologically shuts down and this is why I think Lewis would beat Bowe with ease. Lewis was without a doubt a top 10 all-time heavyweight in terms of that he could go in the ring with almost any heavyweight in history and have a good chance at beating them.
                    That's right, Bowe seems to have ducked hard punchers.

                    The first time he fought a good fighter+hard puncher (Golota) he got spanked!

                    Comment

                    • Elroy1
                      Undisputed Champion
                      Super Champion - 5,000-10,000 posts
                      • Jun 2014
                      • 6561
                      • 237
                      • 61
                      • 14,370

                      #440
                      Originally posted by LacedUp
                      Vitali's 2-3 cuts were 1 million times worse than Charr's face.

                      Where's the rematch though? Vitali ducking Charr.

                      Charr put Vitali into retirement.
                      Yeah VK ducked Byrd, ducked Rahman, ducked Chisora, ducked Charr, ducked Stiverne...

                      You'd like to buy into that rubbish wouldn't you...

                      You do realise that VK had other commitments as well right? You realise he is a leader in his country during a period of civil war and proxy invasion? I think we can excuse Mr. Klitschko for not granting Charr a rematch no?

                      Comment

                      Working...
                      TOP