"Alien" Hopkins vs "Krusher" Kovalev Post fight Discussion thread

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  • jas
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    #501
    Hopkins is so classy that he refused to do media interviews when he attended the boxing hall of fame weekend to pay respects to the inductees calzaghe, Tito And Oscar who he fought . He didn't want the attention taken away from the inductees.

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      #502
      Someone on one of Dwyer's videos said this:

      To those who think Kovalev's power and/or body shots will be a factor in this fight: Kovalev isn't fast enough to land a meaningful punch on Hopkins. After the Kovalev-Sillakh fight, I also thought Kovalev could beat Hopkins, but then I realized that Sillakh lacks what Ali called the "radar", AKA the instinctive ability to dodge punches.

      Remember, Hopkins was the one to approach Tarver and Pavlik, saying things like "Nobody can knock me out!" (so those guys would go for the KO, taking the win for granted). Now he has suckered Kovalev into yet another "slugger vs boxer" impossible mission. Hopkins does his homework, watching videos of these powerpunchers, and then calls them out after he has figured them out. That's the way he works. He's ten times smarter than the other guys in the division.

      Kovalev may be a bit smarter than Tarver, Pavlik and Trinidad, but that isn't going to be useful against Hopkins, because it takes speed to beat BHop, and Kovalev is incredibly slow. And don't be fooled by BHop's lackluster performances in his latest fights: those guys had better handspeed than Kovalev.

      Kovalev will be in the Twilight Zone when he steps into the ring with master BHop. Kovalev fights in what Freddie Roach calls the "Russian" style. BHop has the Philadelphia style. I mean seriously, folks. I expect the scores to be similar to the Pavlik fight: a wipeout.
      The part that really got me was when he said Kov was slower than B-Hop's recent opposition, and I simply disagree. Kov puts his punches together very well, which can't be said for Murat/Cloud/Shumenov. If those guys were able to land on B-Hop, why can't Kovalev? How many agree that Kovalev is too slow to land on B-Hop?

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      • jas
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        #503
        Originally posted by kiaba360
        Someone on one of Dwyer's videos said this:



        The part that really got me was when he said Kov was slower than B-Hop's recent opposition, and I simply disagree. Kov puts his punches together very well, which can't be said for Murat/Cloud/Shumenov. If those guys were able to land on B-Hop, why can't Kovalev? How many agree that Kovalev is too slow to land on B-Hop?
        Kovalev is not slow

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          #504
          Originally posted by IronDanHamza
          Hopkins has lost big fights numerous times though.
          Hopkins' kryptonite is volume/speed.

          Jones, Jr.-speed.

          Taylor-Speed.

          Calzaghe-volume/speed.

          Dawson- speed.

          Kovalev will be banking on his power. I cannot emphasize that enough.

          -Gone furthest is 8 rounds.

          -7 of last 10 fights have ended in 3 or less.

          Kovalev will drown in deep waters against a legend. Hopkins is going to do it again.

          Some of you here were definitely not around when Pavlik or Tito went up against him.

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          • jas
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            #505
            Kovalev seems off balance when he gets hit. He gets moved by a caparello body shot just before the KD and vs Agnew too

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              #506
              Originally posted by kiaba360
              Someone on one of Dwyer's videos said this:



              The part that really got me was when he said Kov was slower than B-Hop's recent opposition, and I simply disagree. Kov puts his punches together very well, which can't be said for Murat/Cloud/Shumenov. If those guys were able to land on B-Hop, why can't Kovalev? How many agree that Kovalev is too slow to land on B-Hop?
              Not incredibly or horribly slow but yes he is pretty slow. He cuts the ring well but he did it against maximum B level fighter for this time and that isn't speed that's more like because he schmooze good in the ring, but IMO Hopkins does it better.
              And his handspeed is mediocre not that good. Not very slow but B-Hop's is better.

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              • King_
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                #507
                Originally posted by TintaBoricua
                Hopkins' kryptonite is volume/speed.

                Jones, Jr.-speed.

                Taylor-Speed.

                Calzaghe-volume/speed.

                Dawson- speed.

                Kovalev will be banking on his power. I cannot emphasize that enough.

                -Gone furthest is 8 rounds.

                -7 of last 10 fights have ended in 3 or less.

                Kovalev will drown in deep waters against a legend. Hopkins is going to do it again.

                Some of you here were definitely not around when Pavlik or Tito went up against him.
                Yeah let's just ignore everything else he does well and pretend all he's got is "power"


                Kovlaev will not be banking on his power. That's not what he does.



                Why do some people see a guy getting KOs and think all he has is power? You have clearly never saw him fight



                Kovalev actually is a volume puncher. Difference is there's power in both fists. He's not slow. His footwork is fantastic. His timing and accuracy is fantastic.


                Yet all you see is power....... Lol
                Last edited by King_; 08-08-2014, 08:11 AM.

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                • kiaba360
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                  #508
                  Originally posted by TintaBoricua
                  Hopkins' kryptonite is volume/speed.

                  Jones, Jr.-speed.

                  Taylor-Speed.

                  Calzaghe-volume/speed.

                  Dawson- speed.

                  Kovalev will be banking on his power. I cannot emphasize that enough.

                  -Gone furthest is 8 rounds.

                  -7 of last 10 fights have ended in 3 or less.

                  Kovalev will drown in deep waters against a legend. Hopkins is going to do it again.

                  Some of you here were definitely not around when Pavlik or Tito went up against him.
                  Kovalev does have volume. Some of his recent KDs/KOs are from combinations (i.e. White, Cleverly, Agnew). It won't be that easy against B-Hop, but he does have certain attributes that make this a winnable fight. He needs to land hard and early. Nobody has a bigger bag of tricks than B-Hop, and he's gonna need it to get this W.

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                    #509
                    Originally posted by kiaba360
                    Someone on one of Dwyer's videos said this:



                    The part that really got me was when he said Kov was slower than B-Hop's recent opposition, and I simply disagree. Kov puts his punches together very well, which can't be said for Murat/Cloud/Shumenov. If those guys were able to land on B-Hop, why can't Kovalev? How many agree that Kovalev is too slow to land on B-Hop?
                    Kovalev is the epitome for the closed-eyes-face-first-slow-brawler...

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                    • VG_Addict
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                      #510
                      I'm tired of saying this, but Kovalev has underrated foot speed.

                      I believe Cleverly said Kovalev has great timing.

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