Comments Thread For: Malignaggi Sounds Off on Pacquiao and Drug Testing

[Bronx2245]

Lost respect for Paulie. I get it, it's easy to accuse Manny of PEDS since he's a small asian man living far far away and he is too humble to even come back at you. It's even easier when you have Floyd's nuts in your mouth, this guy has nothing but praise for Floyd whilst simultaneously having nothing but envy and hate for Manny.

Did he not ask himself why Floyd was flat footed against Guerrero and then suddenly looked like a fresh 22 year old against Canelo and then went back to being the 37 year old flat footed fighter against Maidana. That's more suspect to me.

Let me throw in some logic regarding this whole Manny was once a knockout monster then suddenly he's feather fisted like Paulie himself.

Below are some fights of Manny's that are important to mention for this topic and they are in the order he fought the guys.

Oscar - Guy was a zombie, was skinny as hell, yet Manny was still unable to drop him, he quit on his stool from the punishment.

Hatton - Already been KO'd by the light hitting Mayweather so no surprise when Manny blasted him out.

Cotto - He hasn't been known to have the best chin, has been on ***** street before. He couldn't take any more punishment so Manny scored a TKO.

Clottey - Solid chin, very tight defence, never been knocked out before. Doesn't open up much which means there's less chance of connecting, Manny beat him by his workrate and higher punch stats.

Tony - Granite chin, Manny punished him and messed up his eye socket. It took Mosley who hits like a mule to KO Tony.

Mosley - Manny wins by UD and in the process knocks him down once, note Mosley has a solid chin.

Bradley 1 - Manny loses on the cards but in most people's eyes he won a easy sparring session where is wasn't going all out what so ever.

Marquez 4 - For the first time Manny gets dropped by Marquez and later KO'd cold, before that however Manny did knock Marquez to the canvas.

Rios - Never been knocked out before, solid chin. Manny wins a easy UD, doesn't sit down on his punches much and is moving a lot (as expected he may be gun shy from his prior KO)

Bradley 2 - Bradley wins most of the first half of the fight then Manny comes back strong and makes Bradley look silly in the process, again not sitting down only many shots and in my opinion gun shy.


Conclusion:

Manny's power hasn't magically disappeared or gone down. It's his opponent's chins that are better than others that he's KO'D/TKO'D previously (Yes I know Bradley's chin isn't the best). Add with that his unwillingness to trade as he once did before and not sitting down on his punches and now moving a lot more ie. Rios fight. After that Marquez KO I don't think we'll ever see Manny put on a real beating on anyone again for fear of getting caught and because Roach is most likely telling him to box smarter.

"Let me throw in some logic regarding this whole Manny was once a knockout monster then suddenly he's feather fisted like Paulie himself."

Ali, you did a good job, and I agree with your logic. However, all of that will not take away the su****ion people (like Paulie) have. He refused OST until he got KO'd by Marquez. And most of all Freddie made some very intersting comments which only made it worse:

"For those that are unaware, the video that the lawsuit is referring to is an interview that Roach gave to SecondsOut.com where he made explosive accussations about Ariza when asked for his opinion regarding the failed drug test of Brandon Rios following his unanimous decision loss to Manny Pacquiao. "I know he has a new strength coach and I don't get along with the guy, and one of the reasons why he doesn't work for me anymore is because I think he's a little shady, you know. He used to give Manny a drink every day before we worked out and I asked him, 'What's in that drink,' and he would never tell me. And I said, 'I need to know what's in that drink because, you know, you're giving it to my fighter and if something goes wrong, I'm gonna get the blame.' In my opinion, he's a little shady, so he's with that camp now and it doesn't surprise me that happened," Roach commented in the video..."

http://www.fighthype.com/news/article16612.html

So even if your logic is spot on, the doubts about his meteoric rise will always be there.

[Resilient]

And morales, Diaz and Barrera weren't getting fuukd up either before they faced pac. C'mon dude, stop being a fan boy and give an unbiased review. Pac first fight was at 105...10freaking5! !! Why isn't anybody else fighting in 8 different weight classes? Look at what happened to gamboa this past weekend. Dude bit more than he can chew. Why was pac so successful doing what gamboa attempted to do and made it look so easy while doing it? Dude you're truly delusional if you think what pac has done is normal. In addition, pac is 34 yrs old, hasn't had a KO in about 4 years or so..all during what they call "prime years" in boxing. So you're saying pac is past his prime during his "prime" years? You're hilarious dude

You realise Floyd was at 106 pounds at the same age as Pac right?

[Twako]

i dont see anything new manny did that hasn't been done to his past oppositions. and he hasn't ko'd anyone lately, but his recent opponents never were ko'd before either.

hatton - ko'd by manny, been ko'd before
oscar - tko'd by manny, been ko'd before
cotto - tko'd by manny, tko'd before by tony
clottey - ud for manny, never been ko'd
mosley - ud for manny, never been ko'd
rios - ud for manny, never been ko'd
bradley - ud for manny, never been ko'd

[pickpocket]

It's 2009 again.

[Pretty Boy32]

You realise Floyd was at 106 pounds at the same age as Pac right?

dont waste your breath, these guys are ******

[g24fella]

Another Floyd fanboy comment. No one even brought up the possibility of Pacquiao using steroids until Mayweather used it as an excuse to avoid fighting Manny in his prime. Manny didn't take the tests because he should not have to submit to testing because Mayweather does not want to risk his undefeated record. Pacquiao was never caught with anything. People say he walked through big fighters, but all of those wins, except for Hatton, were late stoppages. He beat those guys with superior speed and angles. Pacquiao always had power and brought it up throught the weight classes with him. If you keep landing multiple punches on a guy, he will eventually fall. Just because a guy is big does not make him invincible. Pacquiao was skillful enough to hit these guys at will. Steroids cannot give you accuracy. People also want to say he avoided the drug test because of a fear of needles but has tattoos. Last time I checked, tattoo needles don't draw blood. He was worried about giving blood because he is superstitious and lost to Morales when gave blood. Bottom line is that Mayweather is ducking and tried to destroy Manny's reputation as an excuse. All of Mayweather's idiot fans support anything he says, whether is has basis or not. Mayweather also came up from a light weight class and dominated. Is he on the juice too???

[Raleighwood007]

The facts of this matter don't lie and Paulie told it how it truly is.

[AddiX]

Paulie is a real ass dude, never did random testing and doesn't talk any smack about haymon fighters anymore.

He's so real...

[DeadLikeMe]

Paulie is a real ass dude, never did random testing and doesn't talk any smack about haymon fighters anymore.

He's so real...

Broner - Malignaggi had USADA. I get it though, all you guys have left is lies.

[Bronx2245]

Another Floyd fanboy comment. No one even brought up the possibility of Pacquiao using steroids until Mayweather used it as an excuse to avoid fighting Manny in his prime. Manny didn't take the tests because he should not have to submit to testing because Mayweather does not want to risk his undefeated record. Pacquiao was never caught with anything. People say he walked through big fighters, but all of those wins, except for Hatton, were late stoppages. He beat those guys with superior speed and angles. Pacquiao always had power and brought it up throught the weight classes with him. If you keep landing multiple punches on a guy, he will eventually fall. Just because a guy is big does not make him invincible. Pacquiao was skillful enough to hit these guys at will. Steroids cannot give you accuracy. People also want to say he avoided the drug test because of a fear of needles but has tattoos. Last time I checked, tattoo needles don't draw blood. He was worried about giving blood because he is superstitious and lost to Morales when gave blood. Bottom line is that Mayweather is ducking and tried to destroy Manny's reputation as an excuse. All of Mayweather's idiot fans support anything he says, whether is has basis or not. Mayweather also came up from a light weight class and dominated. Is he on the juice too???

So is it fair to accuse Marquez of PEDs after he KOs Manny?