Is there a SINGLE SHRED OF EVIDENCE that Pacquiao USED STEROIDS?

[Spoon23]

Yes Floyd(there is actually a paper trail that Floyd has failed tests and they got covered up)

There is also some evidence that GPB has some sort of contract that does not allow the USADA to disclose failed tests now, until AFTER the fight HAPPENS. We also have seen Kid Chocolate get his results tossed out.

We have seen a number of GBP associated fighters fail tests. Peterson, Berto, Bey etc. None of them were exposed by the USADA, but by NSAC and Vada.

So what is the conclusion of all this? There is no promoter, and no fighter really wanting this. We are starting to see cross promotional demand, but testing is not good for Business. The Athletes and the ones testing them to not adhere to any true standards. Pauli is out there throwing names around, but he has a very narrow focus. Lets see if he has the guts to outright accuse any Al Haymon fighter of doping. Does he believe it is not happening on his side? Or is he too afraid to rock the boat he himself is sailing in.


A bunch of junk.

Well said.

[Spoon23]

Blood + urine testing is the most efficient form of testing, yes.

But if he was juicing it would have most definitely appeared in his urine and saliva samples.

But yes, Pacquiao was being a diva and should have given blood.

But you're being disingenuous in claiming he flat out ''refused testing'' because he did not, he was more than willing to give urine which is a highly reliable method of drug detection.

Spot on. Urine and saliva is even better than giving blood victor conte mentioned it that advanced testing need not require blood. Urine is efficient and saliva can be stored for future checking.. And Pac has been on record saying he is willing to give endless urine, saliva before, during, and after the fight.

[Spoon23]

Victor Conte has already confirmed that the best way to detect EPO and testosterone is through urine analysis.

And many corporations prefer the use of urine testing because it is a lot easier, less invasive and cheaper than blood testing.

And I've explained about Manny's fear of blood being drawn up which he has spoken about since 2005.

This sums it up.

Only shows the Hate for Pac in some fans and jealousy from other fighters. Ehem.. Polly wants a cracker..

[Beercules]

This sums it up.

Only shows the Hate for Pac in some fans and jealousy from other fighters. Ehem.. Polly wants a cracker..

Wanna know what's funny? Half of the users who posted in this thread aren't Paulie fans, they are all Floyd fans accusing Pacquiao of doping.


Remember when Juan showed up with a minefield of steroid acne, they defended that too, but yet accuse Manny

Sad group of people.

[DARKSEID]

Wanna know what's funny? Half of the users who posted in this thread aren't Paulie fans, they are all Floyd fans accusing Pacquiao of doping.


Remember when Juan showed up with a minefield of steroid acne, they defended that too, but yet accuse Manny

Sad group of people.

Damn that's true. They ostracize Manny and glorify Marquez. Even though Pac has never shown any sign of steroid use and I've lost count of all the red flags on Marquez.

Although the steroid acne isn't as big of a red flag as his performance at 147 late in his career and the number one of all, Memo Heredia. Marquez's incredible late career run at 147 all began with Heredia.

[Ruthless One]

One thing we learned from this thread is that there are some posters that don't know what "proof" or "evidence" mean.

[The Tase]

http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=645512

so crawford ducking a ped test after the fight is gotta be worse than walking away from failed negotiations amirite floyd fans?


amirite?

lets not do double standards ok?????

[thuggery]

http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=645512

so crawford ducking a ped test after the fight is gotta be worse than walking away from failed negotiations amirite floyd fans?


amirite?

lets not do double standards ok?????

Haven't you heard, they're only concerned with drug testing/PED related content when it comes to the soft spoken Filipino. Berto, Bey, Love, Gamboa, Crawford and all of them can come up dirty and dodge tests but they ain't no Pacroid.

[djtmal]

One thing we learned from this thread is that there are some posters that don't know what "proof" or "evidence" mean.

Amen........

[damned1974]

he turned down floyd treating him like a fcking cheater.

that's what he did.

pacquiao has never denied any tests his sport's ruling bodies required of him.

LOL-Pac was screaming "let the commission do their jobs" because he didn't want RANDOM testing (until several YEARS later after getting sparked out by Marquez). He said the only way he would do blood testing was if it was limited to 3 days that he wanted to know the EXACT date.

Did the Mayweather's treat him like a cheater-yes, and it was enhanced due to a refusal for RANDOMIZED testing that BOTH fighters would undergo....do we need to remind you all of team Pac's excuses when asked about random testing???