Is there a SINGLE SHRED OF EVIDENCE that Pacquiao USED STEROIDS?

[DeadLikeMe]

Since manny enhanced the commissions penalties for weight floyd enhanced their testing procedures.

Floyd said ok, manny said no way.

Mayweather should have rejected the weight penalty and walked to prove Pacquiao is a scared road blocking coward.

[Resilient]

It has been in use for pretty much the entire post-BALCO era. Here is the NY Times explaining how it works in a baseball or cycling article from 2006. It was already part of WADA standards well before 2009.

http://www.nytimes.com/imagepages/20...s-graphic.html

So they would have caught Pac if he tested directly after the fight.

[pacpacpacboom]

Only KO was Hatton at 140 and the rest was just pummeled out of submission. PAC was able to move right in the ring to stay away from power shots of opponents except for that one Marquez power shot he thought would never hurt him but after 4 fights with Marquez they suddenly had a KO effect on him. People here just don't wanna give credit to Pacs talent and roach's transformation of him. No monster power, size and speed difference from 130 to 147. No chest pimples, aggressive behavior, hair loss etc etc.. The only evidence that is being pushed was when PACs camp refused to be bullied by Floyd and all his demands. PAC worked himself to where he was at with blood, sweat and tears. Why would the equal respect that is due him should not be imposed? Money ain't everything. Sometimes pride carries more weight. PAC is coming from a life where he earned $2 a fight so what he was making then is enough for him to protect his honor and legacy by being firm. Live with it. Floyd was just shellin out one excuse after another. This should not surprise us coz he's still singing the same song after age has caught up with PAC right now. Even with the fact that PAC has lost a step or two it's obvious that Floyd is still scared as he ever was of PAC up to now.

[Gigantes]

Why would Ariza want to expose himself as a cheat and a snitch you moron? Dumbest fan base in sports.

Herrerdia exposed himself as a cheat and a snitch. Then he became some great s&c for Marquez

[hectari]

Juan Manuel Marquez.

He is the supreme suspect, 40 years old and looking like the hulk, later gets zits on his chest when he never had acne even as a kid, hires memo the ped maker heredia who even after ratting out Olympians he said he still designs peds and even shown himself injecting EPO.

[DeadLikeMe]

So they would have caught Pac if he tested directly after the fight.

We don't know, because the manufacturers are years ahead of the testers. We don't even know if what Pac ran from testing over could have been detected at the time.

[Gigantes]

Juan Manuel Marquez.

He is the supreme suspect, 40 years old and looking like the hulk, later gets zits on his chest when he never had acne even as a kid, hires memo the ped maker heredia who even after ratting out Olympians he said he still designs peds and even shown himself injecting EPO.

lol bingo was his name-o

[djtmal]

I said they are both to blame in this thread (in the post you replied to but parsed) and to you several other times. But it started with the refusal from manny.

Manny couldn't have tested positive because the testing wasn't adequate enough to detect the advanced ped's-which is why floyd asked they both take the tests.

Manny saying no isn't someone else fault djtmal. It's his. When you accept it we can move on.

So why didn't Mayweather work with the proper sanctioning body to implement this advanced testing to make it a mandatory thing across the board instead of just singling out Pacquaio at the very time he's negotiating a fight with him? How su****ious is that? Lmao.

Dude Manny nor Floyd make up rules for boxing or implement testing. They are just fighters trying to come to terms to fight a mega event, based on rules that are already set. If they can't do that under those circumstances, then its both their fault because they both cut themselves out of their biggest one fight paychecks. Thats it and thats all.

If you want to personally believe Its all Pacquaio's fault (when in actuality he had a choice) because he said no when its obvious that he had good justification, more power to ya but its one not shared by a lot of folks. Maybe you can move on knowing that you are not changing anyone's opinion on this. Especially not mine.

[alexguiness]

Funny how many BS Posters are 'experts' on the effects and symptoms of PEDs.

VADA is missing out on such a huge wealth of in depth knowledge.

I mean, who actually needs testing in the first place?

You could just post a torso shot of the fighters and wait for the analytical physiological breakdown from our brother posters.

He juicing fo sho doe.

He got a huge forehead doe (or a shorter haircut)

Dudes got acne at 40 years old (or a shaving rash).

His balls are tiny...

He's just TOO cut and defined doe (nothing to do with diet / intense training).

What will people say when Paulie starts KOing people inside 3 rounds?

Something like....'He got man strength now" etc.

Its like having naughty thoughts about your sister - everyone has had them at some point, but that doesn't mean they will ever admit it to anyone for any reason.

I do not have a sister btw, just 2 brothers.

Peace.

[hectari]

So you think he was gaining 10-15lbs of muscle overnight. No wonder you think it's everything.

Pacquiao was always muscular, he drained himself to make 126 he would rehydrate to 144, he fights now at 148.



This pic on the left is Pacman in 2005 at 130 is he on steroids there too? Only people said he was on roids is when Mayweather sr hating ass made up lies and excuses for why Hatton loss. Sour sore losing scum bags Floyd Sr.



I am scratching my head at some people who are exaggerating, these people scare me, its like they don't look closely instead they tell tall tales, oh Pacman did this and that, like the Mayweather family scared saying Pacman was on A side meth and bullet proof, and than saying he knocking out all these big guys.

He only had one stoppage at 147, and it was a ref stoppage. Even Oscar who was a shell that night said Pac couldn't hurt him he said he was saying please knock me out and put me out of my misery but Pacmans punches were not hurting him.

He isn't and never is going to knockout anyone at 147, he never was, so there is FACTS so why are people imagining some weird things.

I am starting to believe these guys have mental illness.