Is there a SINGLE SHRED OF EVIDENCE that Pacquiao USED STEROIDS?

[The Big Dunn]

Dunn keeps telling lies, Pac never refused to drug testing, they were trying to negotiate drug testing for the blood tests, which many fighters are superstitious and Pac had an interview in 2005 saying he felt it weakened him and was used as a tactic. But guys like Dunn won't give him anything, they ignore that and stick to him as a ducker of drug tests.

Dunn already admit he is pro black and even said its wrong to accuse a black man of something even though the black man is guilty and has a long criminal record, yet he shows his bias by accusing a filipino man without a shred of record or evidence.


Dunn shouldn't be taken serious when he is race biased. he is the same guy who reports anyone for racism and plays the race card, smh.

Haha. Looool. Hectari. When facts are against you go with poster character assassination as the defense. Hahaha. Love it.

The way you went at me in this post you'd think I was a married guy who got a hooker pregnant. I mean that's the kind of person whose character is disgraceful and desrves contempt.

[The Big Dunn]

About half of which are saying he looks very bad because of it. It is great to see that roughly half of boxingscene thinks Pacquiao's actions were su****ious. Compare that to 2-3 years ago where 90% of this thread would have been pacfans decrying Floyd's request. Could this mean in another 2-3 years this same thread will be 90% people agreeing Pac's actions were sketchy? Who knows, but it certainly seems to be trending that way as many Pacfan's interest in boxing has waned.

When he didn't test for jmm4 a lot of his fans realized something isn't right.

Jmm didn't call him a cheater, disrespect him, or any of the other things manny fans say justified his refusal and cutoff crap surrounding the floyd fight.

The ko stuff is bs. The stamina stuff is as well. But when a respected, quiet man like jmm suggets it and manny says no, you can't try the character assassination defense.

Kudos to those manny fans. It doesn't mean he is guilty. But it makes him look suspect, sorta like Aaron hernandez breaking his home alarm system video.

[Resilient]

Like I said in my first post in this thread refusing to take a test is considered the same as testing positive.

You can pretend he didn't take tests because his feelings were hurt.

I never said manny was or is guilty of anything other than refusing to test which caused the fight to disintergrate.

He never refused the test.

He accepted a urine and saliva test at any time which is more than good enough, there is little difference in detection rates between blood and urine.

Plus, he agreed to blood testing DIRECTLY AFTER the fight, think about it, if he won juiced up and came up positive his rep would be tarnished.

It was clear he has a psychological issue with drawing blood and felt he could afford to be a diva.

[Chuckguy]

FINALLY.

something to properly debate.


lets see,

the weight?

pacquiao didnt really move up in weight. he moved up in division. the reason why he was still cut when moving up in weight was because he didnt cut weight. at all.

welterweight is his natural walking around weight.

why do you think when he was first fighting at welterweight he cant even come in at 147. he was tipping the scales at at 142, 145.

What do most boxers do nowadays?

they take advantage of the rehydration rules by fighting in divisions they are too small for to get a size and power advantage.

the overwhelming majority of fighters have to train to make weight. that's why in today's era, featherweights weigh in at 126lbs but come fight night they are lightweights and welterweights.

welterweights weigh in at 147 and are junior middleweights by fight night.

What pacquiao did in terms of division climbing has been done before countless times throughout boxing history IN EVEN MORE PRONOUNCED FASHION THAT WHAT PACQUIAO DID.

the fact that you used that as your evidence tells me you dont know much about boxing history.

The fact that u bring up walk around weights is laughable! It goes to show your bias and blindness that comes with fan boyism.
A blind man could see PAC was on the juice but if you can't beat them join him and so he did. Then so did JMM and that was when packy got put to sleep
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[The Big Dunn]

He never refused the test.

He accepted a urine and saliva test at any time which is more than good enough, there is little difference in detection rates between blood and urine.

Plus, he agreed to blood testing DIRECTLY AFTER the fight, think about it, if he won juiced up and came up positive his rep would be tarnished.

It was clear he has a psychological issue with drawing blood and felt he could afford to be a diva.

If you won't acknowledge manny refused tests you are not credible.

If there was so little difference than why is manny using vada?

[mrpizza-nd_beer]

Saw a movie, black men got rounded up because there was a white girl ****d. Being black was enough proof at that time.

Poor Manny, now he is being tormented by those who were tormented.

[Resilient]

If you won't acknowledge manny refused tests you are not credible.

If there was so little difference than why is manny using vada?

Did Manny refuse random urine and saliva analysis at any time leading up to the fight yes or no?

[The Big Dunn]

Saw a movie, black men got rounded up because there was a white girl ****d. Being black was enough proof at that time.

Poor Manny, now he is being tormented by those who were tormented.

Did any of the men rounded up refuse to take a dna test?

[The Big Dunn]

Did Manny refuse random urine and saliva analysis at any time leading up to the fight yes or no?

No he refused random blood testing and then asked for a cutoff.

Blood testing is more effective than urine or saliva.

[Hougigo]

Because he has a big head doe....indisputable proof