rjj james toney vs hearns duran hagler srl

**boliodogs** · 07-01-2014, 08:09 AM

If they are all in their prime then I think he loses a close fight to Hagler and a fight with Hearns would be an even fight. Tony would beat Leonard and easily beat Duran. It's possible he could win by KO over any of these fighters except Hagler.

**huh?** · 07-01-2014, 08:20 AM

Jones at 160 beats all, yes. Toney's more interesting though because i think styles would play a bigger role in his match-ups. Duran may be, all around, the greatest of the bunch but 160 is no good for him here. I see Toney effectively countering Leonard at this weight, potentially frustrating Ray. The brilliant Leonard would create his own chances against Toney but lacks the natural size and one-punch power to finish him. For me Hearns v Toney is where things get interesting. Who outboxes whom? Remember Hearns was boxing Leonard and winning their first fight with his stick, and while all these greats could crack, Tommy's right hand was one of the most dangerous punches anyone's ever thrown. That said, Hearns could be hurt while Toney was nails and Toney's defensive skills were off the chart. Hagler was the strongest of the group physically but nobody pushed James around at 160 either and when they tried, they paid. I see Hagler pressuring Toney and showing him different looks, switching sides and stalking with James making him miss a lot. Hearns could spark Toney out, but Hagler's the only one here including Jones, that could actually beat him up. All fun to contemplate and if I had to bet my lunch I guess I'd go: Toney d. Duran UD/lateTKO, Toney d. Leonard by Decision, Toney d. Hearns by Decision, and Hagler finally tracks Toney down for a lateTKO. Just my take. I considered all of these as 15 rd. title fights. Cool thread

**nivek535** · 07-01-2014, 05:04 PM

Originally posted by huh?

Jones at 160 beats all, yes. Toney's more interesting though because i think styles would play a bigger role in his match-ups. Duran may be, all around, the greatest of the bunch but 160 is no good for him here. I see Toney effectively countering Leonard at this weight, potentially frustrating Ray. The brilliant Leonard would create his own chances against Toney but lacks the natural size and one-punch power to finish him. For me Hearns v Toney is where things get interesting. Who outboxes whom? Remember Hearns was boxing Leonard and winning their first fight with his stick, and while all these greats could crack, Tommy's right hand was one of the most dangerous punches anyone's ever thrown. That said, Hearns could be hurt while Toney was nails and Toney's defensive skills were off the chart. Hagler was the strongest of the group physically but nobody pushed James around at 160 either and when they tried, they paid. I see Hagler pressuring Toney and showing him different looks, switching sides and stalking with James making him miss a lot. Hearns could spark Toney out, but Hagler's the only one here including Jones, that could actually beat him up. All fun to contemplate and if I had to bet my lunch I guess I'd go: Toney d. Duran UD/lateTKO, Toney d. Leonard by Decision, Toney d. Hearns by Decision, and Hagler finally tracks Toney down for a lateTKO. Just my take. I considered all of these as 15 rd. title fights. Cool thread

good take! lets see if anyone else has anything to say

**UTEP** · 07-01-2014, 05:41 PM

Duran beats them all at 135

**nivek535** · 07-02-2014, 04:57 AM

Originally posted by UTEP

Duran beats them all at 135

well yea he'd be fighting a skeleton hearns

**soul_survivor** · 07-02-2014, 06:44 AM

Originally posted by nivek535

all at middleweight...
rjj vs hearns
rjj vs hagler
rjj vs duran
rjj vs srl
james toney vs hearns
jt vs duran
jt vs hagler
jt vs srl
how do these fights turn out

? discuss.
i see rjj beating them all..
jt beats duran/hagler..
jt beats hearns if hearns gas out/cant keep toney away.
jt lose to srl due to superior footwork

Interesting, I think RJ beats em all except Hagler, who is the superior warrior, hits hard and can get himself into a brawl. How would RJJ handle a prime ATG fighter at MW in a brawl? Would his chin hold up?

RJ V SRL is a toss up, depends on what type of gameplan SRL turns up with.

JT might lose to Hagler, definitely to SRL but he beats Hearns, possibly by stoppage and batters Duran.

**gmc_rfc_06** · 07-02-2014, 06:51 AM

Prime RJJ doesn't lose. It makes absolutely no difference who is in the ring with him, Jones is winning the fight.

The fight with Toney are real interesting, but I think his skill-set, defensive genius and rock harrd chin see's him beat all but SRL, who would move all night and pot-shot to victory.

**djtmal** · 07-02-2014, 08:17 AM

Prime Hagler beats em all. Only dudes that give him a scuffle is prime toney and hopkins. Everybody else runs, but they can't hide

**SlySlickSmooth** · 07-02-2014, 08:45 AM

Toney can stop Hearns, beats up Duran at 160. I think the Hagler fight would be the most physical challenge, but Toney could very well just outbox Hagler. I think Leonard could beat Toney, but at MW you still dont really know. Nobody is knocking out Toney tho.

rjj james toney vs hearns duran hagler srl