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  • Jerzz
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    #11
    Originally posted by Beercules
    Remember that Abner Mares guy whom some users here had on their p4p lists?

    You know, that guy who got iced in 1 round
    I see, but Donaire was ranked higher than Mares before and Donaire KO Nishioka who KO Gonzales in 3 rounds.

    Donaire should be ranked higher than both Gonzales & Mares.

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    • Aztekkas
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      #12
      Originally posted by Jerzz
      I see, but Donaire was ranked higher than Mares before and Donaire KO Nishioka who KO Gonzales in 3 rounds.

      Donaire should be ranked higher than both Gonzales & Mares.
      What the..? First off having 8 losses mean nothing, boxing is a sport of the present and what you have accomplished on your most recent fights(until you retire, of course). Jhonny has lost but simply because he has done so doesn't instantly forbid him or any other fighter with losses to become the number one ranked fighter in his division. Jhonny lost to top opposition for the most part and was giving a great account of himself until his chin would fail on him.

      Now, Abner Mares moved up to 126 lbs before Nonito Donaire. When he did so he got the WBC belt by Dethroning Ponce De Leon via 9th round stoppage. Thus, shooting Abner Mares up the pfp rankings due to his string of difficult opposition and achieving his 3rd belt in his 3rd different weight class, by KO no less. Meanwhile Nonito Donaire remained at Super Bantamweight, one weight class below Jhonny and Mares, thus he wasn't ranked at 126 yet. While Jhonny fought and KO'd the number 5 pfp fighter in Mares at the time, Nonito lost to Rigo at 122, moved up to 126 to "rematch" a bloated Vic Darchinyan and struggled to KO him. Abner Mares being a PFP fighter was a bigger victory than an older, first time Featherweight in Vic, thus Jhonny would obviously be ahead of Nonito in rankings.

      Yes Nishioka beat Gonzalez and Nonito obliterated Nishioka, but you can't use triangle theories to rank fighters. Jhonny fought a fresher Nishioka in 2009 and was giving a good fight and actually dropped Nishi on the first before his chin failed him, as usual. Nonito fought Nishioka 3 years later after the Japanese fighter was on his way out of the sport. Plus you simply can't rank a loss/win that happened 3 years apart from each other.. it just doesn't work that way.

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      • 285Kid
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        #13
        Originally posted by Ringlife
        According to Dan Rafael. TR is talking about having a feather weight tournament with their fighters and are trying to get Gonzalez in the mix on HBO.
        8 man?

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        • kombayn
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          #14
          Originally posted by 285Kid
          I'd be down to watch that. If Lomachenko/Donaire was the final, I think you could sell that fight with a solid undercard on PPV.

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          • Bigg Rigg
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            #15
            Gonzo won this belt in is about to fight a bunch of bums

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            • BattleAxePurist
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              #16
              Rocky Juarez won the silver title so that could be a possibility after all he doesn't have a loss to Gonzalez on his resume yet.

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