Algieri-prov and Pac-Marquez 3 comparison

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can anyone who scored pac-marquez 3 for marquez and algeiri-prov for algeiri actually explain how they got both their scores? i know i spent the last 6 years of my life watching calzaghe stoppages on a loop so i don't understand much about boxing but please explain.

pac certainly did better than algeiri in the third marquez fight yet the majority say it's a robbery. pac landed more punches than marquez and was never hurt in the fight. algeiri probably landed more but a lot of his punches were graziing no snap punches(do these count as clean and effective?) and ruslan certainly hit algeiri a lot more often than marquez was hitting pac and ruslan hurt algeiri.

so does total amount of punches landed only matter in certain fights? does it only matter when the guy who is deemed the boxer does it? when algeiri does it he's outworking ruslan and when pac does the same thing he's getting outboxed. seems like a contradiction no?

also shout out to mah boy cesar rene cuenca 47-0.

[Sugar Adam Ali]

I thought jmm was totally robbed in the 3rd fight...

i thought ruslan-algieri was much closer, due to the 2 knockdowns,

[Build That Wall]

Marquez vs Pacquiao 3 was a robbery, Algieri vs Provodnikov was not a robbery.

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but what is your reasoning? why did algeiri win/it was not a robbery but pac/marquez 3 was? it can't be total punches landed so is it more like a special feeling? like the feeling you get when al haymon walks into a room or somethin

[Sugar Adam Ali]

Manny really didnt have any big moments...

IMO ruslan started out great but faded badly and got outboxed the 2nd half of the fight to lose to chris..

Manny really didnt do anything but stand around and try and outbox jmm in a slow paced chess match, and jmm clearly outboxed him...

jmm 115-113

I actually had ruslan barely winning 114-112 but wont make any excuses for him, chris clearly outworked him in the 2nd half, and i have no complaints about chris winning.
Manny did little to nothing in that fight until the very end

[VG_Addict]

Haha, Provodnikov nuthuggers are so butthurt they're comparing Algieri-Provodnikov to Pac-Marquez. The difference is one of them isn't a robbery. Hint: It's not Algieri-Provodnikov.

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ok since you aren't answering i'll have to answer for you

so marquez lands a clean hard shot every once in a while while being outlanded by pac with hard shots, meanwhile algeiri lands more pitty pat punches while taking cleaner harder shots at a much higher rate than pac did and algeiri put on a boxing lesson. so they did the same thing(pac did it better) but pac was schooled while algeiri is the master boxer duh! look at his moves!

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Manny really didnt have any big moments...

IMO ruslan started out great but faded badly and got outboxed the 2nd half of the fight to lose to chris..

Manny really didnt do anything but stand around and try and outbox jmm in a slow paced chess match, and jmm clearly outboxed him...

jmm 115-113

I actually had ruslan barely winning 114-112 but wont make any excuses for him, chris clearly outworked him in the 2nd half, and i have no complaints about chris winning.
Manny did little to nothing in that fight until the very end

big moments? well the people that had algeiri winning had him winning because he landed more total punches. he didn't have any big moments. ruslan had the big moments and big punches. just like marquez had the bigger moments in pac-marquez 3 while pac controlled and outlanded him most of the fight. weird.

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Haha, Provodnikov nuthuggers are so butthurt they're comparing Algieri-Provodnikov to Pac-Marquez. The difference is one of them isn't a robbery. Hint: It's not Algieri-Provodnikov.

thank you for your detailed response. you went over what i said with a fine tooth comb and broke it down brilliantly. ROBBERY! OTHER ONE WASN'T!

[Sugar Adam Ali]

ok since you aren't answering i'll have to answer for you

so marquez lands a clean hard shot every once in a while while being outlanded by pac with hard shots, meanwhile algeiri lands more pitty pat punches while taking cleaner harder shots at a much higher rate than pac did and algeiri put on a boxing lesson. so they did the same thing(pac did it better) but pac was schooled while algeiri is the master boxer duh! look at his moves!

JMM clearly outboxed manny and was never knocked down..

algieri was knocked down twice and let ruslan get a big lead before dominating the 2nd half of the fight...

Manny never dominated any stretch of that fight,, the early rounds were split as well as the late rounds, but jmm clearly outboxed manny in the middle rounds...
It was clearly the least exciting fight between them, and that played into jmm's favor, as he is a superior technical boxer to manny...

JMM clearly won the 3rd fight,,, it was a robbery, algieri winning isnt a robbery