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  • #31
    Originally posted by Check_hooks View Post
    One question that I've had and I've never seen answered is if Porter is only signed with Al Haymon and is fighting on a GBP card, does he pay GBP a fee like Floyd does? Otherwise they are promoting him for free and would be losing money. I can understand them doing it before when they thought he was signed to them but now that its out there that alot of GBP fighters aren't even signed to them, whats in it for GBP?

    Its not fair to have to pay a manager and pay a promoter to fight on a card.
    more than likely Golden Boy will do what most promoters do regardless of whether or not they have the fighter under contract: They will look at the rights fee offered by Showtime, guesstimate how big a gate / site fee they can generate, calculate the expenses/overhead, and try to reach a purse agreement with the fighters that still lets them generate a profit.

    The good thing for GBP if Porter is not under contract, is there are no minimum purses they have to deal with. They can make Porter a "take it or leave it" offer.........

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    • #32
      Speculations are rampant in this sport. The media is useless when it comes to details. We still know nothing about Haymon's real role, how he negotiates fights, which of his fighters are free agents, and many things fans are left speculating. The media is not interested. Have never seen a sport so full of mysteries.

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      • #33
        not interest3ed in haymon, gbp should make the fights the people want to see and get latinos good deserving checks.

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        • #34
          Originally posted by Deevel916 View Post
          What many posters are failing to realize is that Haymon is just a manager. He's not a promoter. So even if fighters have a managerial contract with Haymon they are still free to sign with whichever promoter they please.
          That's what I've been trying to tell all these dudes, they just don't get it.

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          • #35
            Originally posted by Check_hooks View Post
            One question that I've had and I've never seen answered is if Porter is only signed with Al Haymon and is fighting on a GBP card, does he pay GBP a fee like Floyd does? Otherwise they are promoting him for free and would be losing money. I can understand them doing it before when they thought he was signed to them but now that its out there that alot of GBP fighters aren't even signed to them, whats in it for GBP?

            Its not fair to have to pay a manager and pay a promoter to fight on a card.
            If a fighter appears on a GBP card, they are paying GBP for the privilege. Thurman and Garcia have referenced this. I thought that was incredibly obvious.

            And of course s fighter pays his manager/advisor. You think Koncz isn't taking a ton of Manny's money every time Pac fights?

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            • #36
              Originally posted by Hook-Right View Post
              If a fighter appears on a GBP card, they are paying GBP for the privilege. Thurman and Garcia have referenced this. I thought that was incredibly obvious.

              And of course s fighter pays his manager/advisor. You think Koncz isn't taking a ton of Manny's money every time Pac fights?
              Do you have a link from Thurman or Garcia saying this? I've never seen it so I thought that Scaefer was sabotaging GBP by basically promoting these guys for free because everyone thought that they had a contract with GBP when they did not. I'll give you a trillion points if you can find me a legit link

              And my concern isn't with having a manager, its being signed exclusively to a manager and having to pay a promoter to fight on their card. Pacquiao pays Koncz but he doesn't pay Top Rank. Top Rank pays him a $20+ million guarantee per fight.

              Someone like Garcia has to pay Haymon and GBP. Its dumb

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              • #37
                They seem to be working together now but who knows later this year. I think if Canelo vs Lara is a success which I think it will be I hope they continue to do business together. Let's not act like it was all Schaefer fault everybody new what the f##k was going on over there even the matchmaker Eric Gomes and the whole staff.

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by Check_hooks View Post
                  Do you have a link from Thurman or Garcia saying this? I've never seen it so I thought that Scaefer was sabotaging GBP by basically promoting these guys for free because everyone thought that they had a contract with GBP when they did not. I'll give you a trillion points if you can find me a legit link

                  And my concern isn't with having a manager, its being signed exclusively to a manager and having to pay a promoter to fight on their card. Pacquiao pays Koncz but he doesn't pay Top Rank. Top Rank pays him a $20+ million guarantee per fight.

                  Someone like Garcia has to pay Haymon and GBP. Its dumb
                  LOL at "Manny doesn't pay Top Rank." Arum takes 30% dude, most out of any promoters I know. A big chunk of Manny's purse goes to TR.

                  You thought TR was promoting Manny out of the goodness of their heart?

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by Hook-Right View Post
                    LOL at "Manny doesn't pay Top Rank." Arum takes 30% dude, most out of any promoters I know. A big chunk of Manny's purse goes to TR.

                    You thought TR was promoting Manny out of the goodness of their heart?
                    The first $20 million doesn't get touched. The 30% gets taken from whatever is left over from the revenue. Thats like winning alot of money at black jack and tipping the dealer. What Al Haymon fighters are doing is paying a door fee to even get in the casino.

                    Also since you didn't post a link, I'm assuming you don't have one

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by Cgarcia View Post
                      The fight wasn't made yet prior to the GBP breakup. You're just lying. You know nothing.
                      the fight is a mandatory and was going up for a purse bid if no deals were reached by a certain date. This had been stated months ago, so please do your homework prior to commenting.

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