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  • freethinkersam
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    Cotto looked too sharp for his own good!

    Let's face it, coming in as a significant underdog against the bigger, stronger & faster 'Maravilla' Martinez, Cotto (by majority) was not expected to win this fight!

    A prediction that stood out to me for this fight was by Rosado - the 154lb contender: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3c5h2IQYGgk

    Rosado pointed out that whilst Martinez is a good fighter, he lacks something which Cotto has: the fundamentals!

    Sergio Martinez came into this fight promising a 9th round KO. He declared himself to be healthy. And if it means anything, the State Athletic Commission's Doctor gave Sergio the green light to take the fight.

    I'm not denying that Martinez may have been compromised - the extent of which can be argued blind - but to then go on and undermine Cotto's performance on the back of that is a disservice to what is really a historic upset.

    The crucial fact - by Martinez's own admission - is that he never recovered from round 1.

    As HBO's Max Kellerman's said: "I don't care about the condition of Martinez's knee". And that's right, because Cotto looked that good - he was too sharp for his own good!

    With the rejuvenation of Roach, Cotto annihilated Martinez.

    It's about time Cotto received the credit he deserves. He sealed his legacy on June 7th as one of the modern era's true greats.
    Last edited by freethinkersam; 06-12-2014, 02:40 PM.
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    #2
    Originally posted by freethinkersam
    Let's face it, coming in as a significant underdog against the bigger, stronger & faster 'Maravilla' Martinez, Cotto (by majority) was not expected to win this fight!

    A prediction that stood out to me for this fight was by Rosado - the 154lb contender: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3c5h2IQYGgk

    Rosado pointed out that whilst Martinez is a good fighter, he lacks something which Cotto has: the fundamentals!

    Sergio Martinez came into this fight promising a 9th round KO. He declared himself to be healthy. And if it means anything, the State Athletic Commission's Doctor gave Sergio the green light to take the fight.

    I'm not denying that Martinez may have been compromised - the extent of which can be argued blind - but to then go on and undermine Cotto's performance on the back of that is a disservice to what is really a historic upset.

    The crucial fact - by Martinez's own admission - is that he never recovered from round 1.

    As HBO's Max Kellerman's said: "I don't care about the condition of Martinez's knee". And that's right, because Cotto looked that good - he was too sharp for his own good!

    With the rejuvenation of Roach, Cotto annihilated Martinez.

    It's about time Cotto received the credit he deserves. He sealed his legacy on June 7th as one of the modern era's true greats.
    I think Cotto beats Martinez in 2008 or 2014. Anyone who understands the nuances of the game, will admit that Sergio when compared to Cotto skill wise, is a notch below. He came in their with his bag of tricks that only work on slow journeymen against a guy who has seen it all. He got humbled fast in round one and you could see it hit him then. He knew Cotto was much more than he had been fighting all these years. His resume does not lie. Sergio's entire game plan went like this, " I am taller so I will win."

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    • elgu
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      #3
      Originally posted by MaraVeeYah!
      I think Cotto beats Martinez in 2008 or 2014. Anyone who understands the nuances of the game, will admit that Sergio when compared to Cotto skill wise, is a notch below. He came in their with his bag of tricks that only work on slow journeymen against a guy who has seen it all. He got humbled fast in round one and you could see it hit him then. He knew Cotto was much more than he had been fighting all these years. His resume does not lie. Sergio's entire game plan went like this, " I am taller so I will win."
      You cotto stans should really wait to see if Sergio defeats anyone of meaning after this fight. This victory was like the one Mayweather had over Mosley, looks good on paper but Mosley went on to have no meaningful victories and neither will Martinez.Wanna know why? He has no knees to defend himself or to put power in his punches.

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      • hugh grant
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        #4
        Floyd needs to beat GGG to qualify to fight Miguel.

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        • The Problem Child
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          #5
          Originally posted by hugh grant
          Floyd needs to beat GGG to qualify to fight Miguel.
          ^ This right here.

          Floyd stay ducking GGG hard though.

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          • bopbopbbe
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            #6
            Cotto just too sharp doe

            Martinez was healthy and prime doe

            Same martinez from 2010 doe

            Knee surgeries dont effect 40 year olds doe

            Tons of Professional Athletes have knee surgeries and go back to work in weeeks doe.

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            • freethinkersam
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              #7
              Originally posted by elgu
              You cotto stans should really wait to see if Sergio defeats anyone of meaning after this fight. This victory was like the one Mayweather had over Mosley, looks good on paper but Mosley went on to have no meaningful victories and neither will Martinez.Wanna know why? He has no knees to defend himself or to put power in his punches.
              No comparison. Mosley was the same size as Mayweather. And he visibly gassed out in 3-rounds.

              Martinez, on the other hand, was a huge favourite over Cotto. He was considered not just bigger and stronger, but faster and more skilled! The majority expected him to do what Trout did, but add some slice on top.

              But Martinez literally died in that fight in round 1. And that was because Freddie Roach was in Cotto's corner.

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                #8
                He did look sharp.


                I am a bit torn between giving credit and taking it away lol... Because Cotto looked very sharp... But Martinez looked very dull.

                I will trust my eyes though, as I should have right after Delvin. This is a much improved Cotto... More emphasis on that hook and better conditioning. It reminds me of how Maidana transformed after going to Garcia.

                I like this Cotto in a lot of jr mw match ups. I think he could get revenge on Trout... And give Mayweather a very close fight. Canelo I feel would be a bit much... Young prime strong kid like that... But we'll see.

                Mw is too much for Miguel... He will have to tread carefully at that weight or get sent packing to the lower weights sooner than later.

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                • elgu
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by freethinkersam
                  No comparison. Mosley was the same size as Mayweather. And he visibly gassed out in 3-rounds.

                  Martinez, on the other hand, was a huge favourite over Cotto. He was considered not just bigger and stronger, but faster and more skilled! The majority expected him to do what Trout did, but add some slice on top.

                  But Martinez literally died in that fight in round 1. And that was because Freddie Roach was in Cotto's corner.
                  Do you really think the Martinez that fought Cotto was the same one that fought Pavlik and Williams? Do you think Martinez will have any success from now on given the condition of his leg?

                  Martinez didn't die in round 1 or else Cotto would have finished him. Hell the fight was stopped by his corner because the leg wouldn't respond not because Martinez quit.

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                  • Luilun
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by freethinkersam
                    Let's face it, coming in as a significant underdog against the bigger, stronger & faster 'Maravilla' Martinez, Cotto (by majority) was not expected to win this fight!

                    A prediction that stood out to me for this fight was by Rosado - the 154lb contender: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3c5h2IQYGgk

                    Rosado pointed out that whilst Martinez is a good fighter, he lacks something which Cotto has: the fundamentals!

                    Sergio Martinez came into this fight promising a 9th round KO. He declared himself to be healthy. And if it means anything, the State Athletic Commission's Doctor gave Sergio the green light to take the fight.

                    I'm not denying that Martinez may have been compromised - the extent of which can be argued blind - but to then go on and undermine Cotto's performance on the back of that is a disservice to what is really a historic upset.

                    The crucial fact - by Martinez's own admission - is that he never recovered from round 1.

                    As HBO's Max Kellerman's said: "I don't care about the condition of Martinez's knee". And that's right, because Cotto looked that good - he was too sharp for his own good!

                    With the rejuvenation of Roach, Cotto annihilated Martinez.

                    It's about time Cotto received the credit he deserves. He sealed his legacy on June 7th as one of the modern era's true greats.
                    If he looked to sharp than you know Floyd will make excuses and will avoid him he needs to look like a shop worn Mosley

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