Wear and tear

[Zangief]

So roach said Martinez was done because of all the wear and tear in the Chavez jr fight... What does he mean by that? Jr got beat up for 11 rounds so is he damaged goods as well?

[Phenom]

there was no wear and tear in the that fight it was Martinez on auto pilot for 11 rounds probably the easiest fight for him after Williams II

[White_Knight]

Roach doesn't want to think that he failed as a coach in the Chavez-Martinez fight, so he's trying to salvage something by saying Chavez is responsible for Martinez' downfall.

[Phenom]

here is the thing with Martinez is he never learned how to fight he was a great athelete fought with his hands down and relied on his feet and reflexes but with his injuries all of that goes out of the window ****m Richarson said it best it also applies to Martinez in this case some wise words from the best boxing minds around period starts at 05:30

[jas]

martinez said his knee was affecting him even back in the chavez fight in an interview with thaboxingvoice