So Andre, who are you actually going to fight??

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    #11
    Originally posted by #1Assassin
    stevenson and kovalev arent in his weightclass. he shouldnt need to leave his division before he is ready to get a good fight, he will move up when the time is right for him meaning when he grows into the division.

    ggg wont fight him, not the other way around. all ward has said is he wont move down to make it happen, which is reasonable. ward would be a fool to make the same mistake dawson made against him. as for golovkin moving up, the same thing applies to him as it does ward. he will move up when he is ready.

    froch is the one who wont fight ward too, not the other way around. they say ward doesnt sell enough tickets yet they include bika in the conversation. they talk about degale, kessler, even paul and callum smith but not ward. if his name is brought up by someone else they are quick to dismiss it and change the subject. they want chavez jr, someone whos status exceeds his ability. not the opposite in ward.

    there really arent many options for ward, both froch and kessler refuse to fight him. who else is there at 168lbs? surely chavez jr if he moves up would rather take on froch considering thats a much easier fight.

    ward needs to forget about getting a PPV fight and just stay busy. anthony dirrell, sakio bika or james degale would all be decent defenses. just because you deserve to be on PPV doesnt mean you will, ward is being too much of a baby about it. its an unfair situation but he has to make the best of it.
    If Ward would be willing to travel, he'd have a lot more fight options... but he's all BA Baracus and scared to fly

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    • junior gong
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      #12
      Originally posted by #1Assassin
      stevenson and kovalev arent in his weightclass. he shouldnt need to leave his division before he is ready to get a good fight, he will move up when the time is right for him meaning when he grows into the division.

      ggg wont fight him, not the other way around. all ward has said is he wont move down to make it happen, which is reasonable. ward would be a fool to make the same mistake dawson made against him. as for golovkin moving up, the same thing applies to him as it does ward. he will move up when he is ready.

      froch is the one who wont fight ward too, not the other way around. they say ward doesnt sell enough tickets yet they include bika in the conversation. they talk about degale, kessler, even paul and callum smith but not ward. if his name is brought up by someone else they are quick to dismiss it and change the subject. they want chavez jr, someone whos status exceeds his ability. not the opposite in ward.

      there really arent many options for ward, both froch and kessler refuse to fight him. who else is there at 168lbs? surely chavez jr if he moves up would rather take on froch considering thats a much easier fight.

      ward needs to forget about getting a PPV fight and just stay busy. anthony dirrell, sakio bika or james degale would all be decent defenses. just because you deserve to be on PPV doesnt mean you will, ward is being too much of a baby about it. its an unfair situation but he has to make the best of it.
      Froch isnt refusing to fight him though. Quite frankly that is a totally ridiculous statement you have just made. Who should he fight though? The guy, as good as he is, has lost all of his momentum and all of his marketability. Thats nobody's fault but his.

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        #13
        Originally posted by soul_survivor
        when will you idiots get it into your thick skulls that Ward does not need to fight anyone of note because he is the number one 168 pounder on the planet and never needs to defend that ranking or move up in weight.

        Bloody hell! what idiots!
        Brilliant!

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          #14
          Originally posted by Szef99
          Oh there will be a big PPV fight in Vegas with Andre Ward involved. I can't to see his face while commentating Froch - Chavez Jr

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            #15
            Originally posted by Hougigo
            He's also talking like GGG is a PPV..... nope. that's why Golovkin is scratching and clawing to get B-side on somebody else's PPV.... he didn't.

            You know what he's doing instead of sitting around doing nothing hoping for a PPV? He's taking fights and trying to build himself into that role.

            How can anybody think that right now Ward/GGG is a PPV? No way Ward thinks that.
            Its absolutely mystifying what he's doing to his career. I dont think he realises that he is now going to have to rebuild himself into a PPV attraction and he can only do that by actually fighting, not talking about fighting or whining and coming up with excuses. He's a tremendous fighter, but clearly not very bright.

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              #16
              Originally posted by bojangles1987


              I can't wait to hear him talk trash about the fight when he's been trying to get the Chavez fight for himself all year.
              He already talked trash about GGG vs Jr when it looked like it would happen. The hypocrisy was hilarious.

              Ward is heads and shoulders above his competition, but he is ridiculously delusional about his financial worth. HBO overpaying him for the Rodriguez fight probably has a lot to do with that.

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                #17
                Originally posted by junior gong
                Its absolutely mystifying what he's doing to his career. I dont think he realises that he is now going to have to rebuild himself into a PPV attraction and he can only do that by actually fighting, not talking about fighting or whining and coming up with excuses. He's a tremendous fighter, but clearly not very bright.
                He keeps suing Goosen... he says he's not helping his career... you're not helping your career man. We might not see him again till later this year because he thinks everybody who isn't PPV is a step back and he deserves PPV right now. He's only going to make PPV as a B-Side.... and with all this sitting around, the only way he gets it is if Arum thinks he's sat so long that the rust will work in JCC's favor.

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by Black Barty
                  He already talked trash about GGG vs Jr when it looked like it would happen. The hypocrisy was hilarious.

                  Ward is heads and shoulders above his competition, but he is ridiculously delusional about his financial worth. HBO overpaying him for the Rodriguez fight probably has a lot to do with that.
                  Well that's not fair. Ward/ JCc Jr is must see PPV

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by #1Assassin
                    stevenson and kovalev arent in his weightclass. he shouldnt need to leave his division before he is ready to get a good fight, he will move up when the time is right for him meaning when he grows into the division.
                    But GGG has to move up to fight that divisions best fighter despite NOT growing into that division and despite GGG actually having a fighting career?


                    ggg wont fight him, not the other way around. all ward has said is he wont move down to make it happen, which is reasonable. ward would be a fool to make the same mistake dawson made against him. as for golovkin moving up, the same thing applies to him as it does ward. he will move up when he is ready.
                    Ok with me.
                    froch is the one who wont fight ward too, not the other way around. they say ward doesnt sell enough tickets yet they include bika in the conversation. they talk about degale, kessler, even paul and callum smith but not ward. if his name is brought up by someone else they are quick to dismiss it and change the subject. they want chavez jr, someone whos status exceeds his ability. not the opposite in ward.

                    there really arent many options for ward, both froch and kessler refuse to fight him. who else is there at 168lbs? surely chavez jr if he moves up would rather take on froch considering thats a much easier fight.
                    Nope. Ward refused to fight Kessler. He got an offer and just refused. No counters. No nothing.



                    ward needs to forget about getting a PPV fight and just stay busy. anthony dirrell, sakio bika or james degale would all be decent defenses. just because you deserve to be on PPV doesnt mean you will, ward is being too much of a baby about it. its an unfair situation but he has to make the best of it.
                    Yeah. Ward just need to fight, but at the same time it would be a major dissapointment if he doesn't fight a live body. It's been nearly 3 years.

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by BattlingNelson

                      Yeah. Ward just need to fight, but at the same time it would be a major dissapointment if he doesn't fight a live body. It's been nearly 3 years.
                      If he keeps the same level of activity, every fight will be a tune-up fight

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