Why is it when a fighter signs to Haymon its ruled as a bad thing around here?

[OnePunch]

This is easy.

A Haymon signing is always bad news because it indicates that there will be yet another fight where the Watson idiots are mugging for the camera........

[sicko]

Too many facts

yeah but Facts means NOTHING on this Forum Unfortunately!

[dc3383]

We know why and it has nothing to do with being bad for boxing; people like him shouldn't be in the position of power it's funny to me.

[Mitchell Kane]

Just saying that they deserve the big checks they get, cause their ability to earn one cent more for the rest of their lives could change and that money will have to last them and family for the rest of their lives. And I dont see why people would want to begrudge a boxer of their ability to take care of themselves. Thats where I have a problem. If Haymon helps them, good for them, but dont be on here hating a man for trying to make more money.

That may work in the short-term, for specific boxers in specific instances where Haymon has leverage (like the Rodriuez situation) but not long-term...and in fact it didn't work when be tried it with Stevenson. Well, Stevenson got paid By Harmon and SHO, but it didn't work in getting money from HBO.

If the way Haymon negotiates is such that it leads other parties at the negotiating table (like HBO) to the point where they don't believe he is negotiating in good faith, then it may hurt other boxers signed to Haymon who lose out on other potential fights and money

Part of the reason GBP was banned by HBO is because of these tactics by Schaefer and Haymon.

Is that really benefitting all of Haymon's boxers?

You can point to some boxers who benefit, but there will be others that don't.

[Bullrider]

He works for Floyd, wouldnt you want someone working for you to try and get you the best deal? Maidana should've hired him or someone to look out for him business wise.

This guy's true color is exposed. He didn't know Maidana is signed to Haymon.
Thanks for admitting you're only concerned about millionaire Floyd's welfare. Thanks also for your previous speeches about fighters' well being.

http://firstclassboxing.com/maidanasignswithhaymon/

[Mitchell Kane]

This guy's true color is exposed. He didn't know Maidana is signed to Haymon.
Thanks for admitting you're only concerned about millionaire Floyd's welfare. Thanks also for your previous speeches about fighters' well being.

http://firstclassboxing.com/maidanasignswithhaymon/

I'm beginning to doubt he ever donated money either.

[radioraheem]

That may work in the short-term, for specific boxers in specific instances where Haymon has leverage (like the Rodriuez situation) but not long-term...and in fact it didn't work when be tried it with Stevenson. Well, Stevenson got paid By Harmon and SHO, but it didn't work in getting money from HBO.

If the way Haymon negotiates is such that it leads other parties at the negotiating table (like HBO) to the point where they don't believe he is negotiating in good faith, then it may hurt other boxers signed to Haymon who lose out on other potential fights and money

Part of the reason GBP was banned by HBO is because of these tactics by Schaefer and Haymon.

Is that really benefitting all of Haymon's boxers?

You can point to some boxers who benefit, but there will be others that don't.

You can go back and forth with that. There will always be a winner and loser. If HBO outbids Showtime, you could argue that Showtime could get pissed. Some can argue that it's better to keep all your eggs in one basket, others can argue that it's better to have eggs in both baskets.

HBO still wants to do business with Stevenson by the way. They went on record saying that their offer is still on the table. So apparently Haymon didn't hurt Stevenson as you suggested.

[MRCHOKEaMF]

This guy's true color is exposed. He didn't know Maidana is signed to Haymon.
Thanks for admitting you're only concerned about millionaire Floyd's welfare. Thanks also for your previous speeches about fighters' well being.

http://firstclassboxing.com/maidanasignswithhaymon/

So do you know who every boxer is signed too? Nah I didnt think so. Try again, if someone doesnt take your word a gospel and agree with it, they are only concerened with Floyds welfare. lol. More fanboyism. And using floyd as an example makes sense, because he's the reason you guys choose to hate who you hate. so it makes sense. It got your attention apparently.

[Mitchell Kane]

You can go back and forth with that. There will always be a winner and loser. If HBO outbids Showtime, you could argue that Showtime could get pissed. Some can argue that it's better to keep all your eggs in one basket, others can argue that it's better to have eggs in both baskets.

HBO still wants to do business with Stevenson by the way. They went on record saying that their offer is still on the table. So apparently Haymon didn't hurt Stevenson as you suggested.

I said it worked it worked in that Stevenson got paid (by SHO).

It didn't work it getting HBO to give into Haymon's higher demands...or forcing HBO to worth with Haymon under his terms.

And the attempt to get networks to bid against each other is the reason HBO banned GBP.

Schaefer and Haymon were doing that with their roster so HBO got out of the Haymon/Schaefer game.

Let SHO overpay if they choose to.

[radioraheem]

I said it worked it worked in that Stevenson got paid (by SHO).

It didn't work it getting HBO to give into Haymon's higher demands...or forcing HBO to worth with Haymon under his terms.

And the attempt to get networks to bid against each other is the reason HBO banned GBP.

Schaefer and Haymon were doing that with their roster so HBO got out of the Haymon/Schaefer game.

Let SHO overpay if they choose to.

I agree. But it's not about trying to force HBO to give into higher demands. Instead, it's more a game of the highest bidder wins. Whoever ponies up the most money wins. And yes, that is why HBO got out of that bidding game, a game. But the core reason they got out of the game though was because they lost Floyd Mayweather. That was a huge deal breaker. HBO even got rid of Larry Merchant immediately after that.