When was the last time 80K+ people showed up for a fight?

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  • yoz
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    #11
    Originally posted by ßringer
    I figured the same, but in that interview Haye is saying something astronomical.

    Wonder if anybody has the official attendance numbers. I googled, but came up emptyhanded.
    BBC sport quote 45,000.

    Britain's David Haye loses on points to Ukrainian heavyweight rival Wladimir Klitschko in their world title decider in Germany.

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      #12
      Originally posted by ßringer
      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...ms_by_capacity

      You'll notice that the vast majority are football stadiums.

      Boxing could court venues like that for bigger fights, but I don't think boxing would ever fill those types of stadiums again.

      For starters, who the **** wants to go to Ann Arbor or Knoxville to see a fight?

      Secondly, boxing appears to have an exclusive unwritten contract with the city of Las Vegas as far as the biggest fights are concerned.
      what you think it will take to start getting mega fights in these type of situation, I think if Las Vegas had a Stadium (a football team) then the situation will be more likely that big fights will be more often then not. Cause cowboy stadium nice but what next after the fight? most people go to vegas as a package, gamble, party, go to the fight, party afterwards etc etc.

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        #13
        Originally posted by MaskedMurderer
        what you think it will take to start getting mega fights in these type of situation, I think if Las Vegas had a Stadium (a football team) then the situation will be more likely that big fights will be more often then not. Cause cowboy stadium nice but what next after the fight? most people go to vegas as a package, gamble, party, go to the fight, party afterwards etc etc.
        Texas seems like the place where it's attempted...Cowboys Stadium, Alamodome, Sun Bowl.

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          #14
          There was 80.000 in there, but Eddie was only aloud to have that many people in due to transport for London, that stadium could have fit an other 10 to 15.000 easy, cause some of the top tier was empty, and every corner of the stadium the seats were blocked off and they could have got loads more on the pitch. So it could have been bigger if they were aloud more people in.

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            #15
            Originally posted by JackTheLad
            There was 80.000 in there, but Eddie was only aloud to have that many people in due to transport for London, that stadium could have fit an other 10 to 15.000 easy, cause some of the top tier was empty, and every corner of the stadium the seats were blocked off and they could have got loads more on the pitch. So it could have been bigger if they were aloud more people in.
            Can you please explain more, not sure what "due to transport for london" means?

            thanks in advance

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              #16
              Originally posted by yoz
              Much appreciated, yoz.

              what you think it will take to start getting mega fights in these type of situation, I think if Las Vegas had a Stadium (a football team) then the situation will be more likely that big fights will be more often then not. Cause cowboy stadium nice but what next after the fight? most people go to vegas as a package, gamble, party, go to the fight, party afterwards etc etc.
              Good question.

              I honestly don't know. Like you said, most people travel to Vegas for more than just fights - After the fights they like to enjoy the nightlife, hit up clubs, go gamble at the casinos, maybe attend an after-fight party - That sort of ****.

              You move these big fights to a different area (like Knoxville) and what's the appeal? Knoxville is like 2 hours from me. There's nothing there as far as tourism goes aside from a zoo and a few art museums. Not exactly the kinda thing that fight fans would be interested in and not open late at night anyway.

              I think legalizing ******** across the board would be a start. A lot of the appeal of Vegas lies solely in the legal ********. Take that advantage away by making it legal to gamble anywhere in the continental United States and you might be able to make power plays for some of these stadiums.

              That's assuming you have a big enough fight to sell, that is. Something like Mayweather/Pacquiao could easily sell 100K tickets, but some **** like Broner/Molina belongs either in smaller stadiums or on the undercards of those big fights.

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                #17
                Originally posted by ßringer
                Much appreciated, yoz.



                Good question.

                I honestly don't know. Like you said, most people travel to Vegas for more than just fights - After the fights they like to enjoy the nightlife, hit up clubs, go gamble at the casinos, maybe attend an after-fight party - That sort of ****.

                You move these big fights to a different area (like Knoxville) and what's the appeal? Knoxville is like 2 hours from me. There's nothing there as far as tourism goes aside from a zoo and a few art museums. Not exactly the kinda thing that fight fans would be interested in and not open late at night anyway.

                I think legalizing ******** across the board would be a start. A lot of the appeal of Vegas lies solely in the legal ********. Take that advantage away by making it legal to gamble anywhere in the continental United States and you might be able to make power plays for some of these stadiums.

                That's assuming you have a big enough fight to sell, that is. Something like Mayweather/Pacquiao could easily sell 100K tickets, but some **** like Broner/Molina belongs either in smaller stadiums or on the undercards of those big fights.
                Yeash Exactly, like you say assuming theirs big enough fights to fill the seats. Maybe thats why Arum was talking about building a stadium or something lol.

                But this will be a long road like you say the start will be to legalize ******** across the nation but we all know that will not happen soon, so lets think logically what other cities can host such an event? that we are not already limited to right now?, what people come for is the package of Vegas and its party life, the fight, the club, the 24/7 drinking etc etc and people make it a weekend. Vegas is already prebuilt for it, so I think if big time boxing happens in our time it will be in vegas once they get a football team or a soccer team or something, cause otherwise too much work and resources are needed elsewhere.

                and the bottom line their is just not that many big fights in boxing that will demand a stadium or what not, So why would the investors/power at be even invest into in some non ******** city?

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by MaskedMurderer
                  Yeash Exactly, like you say assuming theirs big enough fights to fill the seats. Maybe thats why Arum was talking about building a stadium or something lol.

                  But this will be a long road like you say the start will be to legalize ******** across the nation but we all know that will not happen soon, so lets think logically what other cities can host such an event? that we are not already limited to right now?, what people come for is the package of Vegas and its party life, the fight, the club, the 24/7 drinking etc etc and people make it a weekend. Vegas is already prebuilt for it, so I think if big time boxing happens in our time it will be in vegas once they get a football team or a soccer team or something, cause otherwise too much work and resources are needed elsewhere.

                  and the bottom line their is just not that many big fights in boxing that will demand a stadium or what not, So why would the investors/power at be even invest into in some non ******** city?
                  I think a football stadium in Los Angeles could really open a lot of doors for boxing. Boxing is obviously big business in LA - LA has a huge latino population, we've done HUGE numbers in LA at the Staples Center (Margarito/Mosley immediately springs to mind), plus Oscar's from LA and owns the biggest promotional company in the sport right now.

                  Los Angeleans have been campaigning for a football stadium and their own NFL team for years now. In fact, a working draft and blueprint have already been brought to the table.



                  Check that **** out.

                  You build that thing and Oscar will fill it. Repeatedly.

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by ßringer
                    I think a football stadium in Los Angeles could really open a lot of doors for boxing. Boxing is obviously big business in LA - LA has a huge latino population, we've done HUGE numbers in LA at the Staples Center (Margarito/Mosley immediately springs to mind), plus Oscar's from LA and owns the biggest promotional company in the sport right now.

                    Los Angeleans have been campaigning for a football stadium and their own NFL team for years now. In fact, a working draft and blueprint have already been brought to the table.



                    Check that **** out.

                    You build that thing and Oscar will fill it. Repeatedly.
                    Yes, in LA it can happen because of the large Hispanic population and it within reach for people from SD, Mexicali, TJ, So cal etc etc.

                    Its going to be some work though, cause the place has to acutally be able to seat them.

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by MaskedMurderer
                      Yes, in LA it can happen because of the large Hispanic population and it within reach for people from SD, Mexicali, TJ, So cal etc etc.

                      Its going to be some work though, cause the place has to actually be able to seat them.
                      No doubt it'll take a lot of politicking and hard work to actually get the plans for a stadium set in motion, but I'm pretty confident that the city council of Los Angeles will eventually work everything out. It's too big an attraction to turn away.

                      I'm equally confident in De La Hoya's ability to make the power plays needed to get a negotiate an exclusive contract with the owner once it's completed.

                      It's not really a matter of "if" - It's a matter of "when."

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