How does the punch resistance scale with weight? Would MW be able to KO HW?

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  • Kid-Chocolate
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    #11
    Offcourse Manny Pacuqiao would KO Chisora if he had a free shot on his chin. It damn well wont be a flash knockdown and Chisora would feel it. We could even go down to Light weight and bring Mathysee, garcia, etc and they would also KO a heavy weight with a free chin shot.

    This is boxing, not Dragonball Z where someone can take a full on power shot to the chin and not even blink because his power level is over 9000!

    No heavy weight boxer would walk through any power punchers hardest hit ****! on da chin unless they are under the influence of roid rage e.g. Guillermo Jones walking through dennis Lebedev
    Last edited by Kid-Chocolate; 06-04-2014, 04:56 PM. Reason: mistake

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    • millaross
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      #12
      If you knew the percentage of fights that ended in a KO in each weight division you could figure it out.... If they're about the same in all divisions, and you agree that punching power scales with weight then punch resistance must also. If the KO percentage gets higher with each weight division then I guess it doesnt scale like that.....

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      • Spray_resistant
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        #13
        Originally posted by Kid-Chocolate
        Offcourse Manny Pacuqiao would KO Chisora if he had a free shot on his chin. It damn well wont be a flash knockdown and Chisora would feel it. We could even go down to Light weight and bring Mathysee, garcia, etc and they would also KO a heavy weight with a free chin shot.

        This is boxing, not Dragonball Z where someone can take a full on power shot to the chin and not even blink because his power level is over 9000!

        No heavy weight boxer would walk through any power punchers hardest hit ****! on da chin unless they are under the influence of roid rage e.g. Guillermo Jones walking through dennis Lebedev


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        • DoktorSleepless
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          #14
          254 pound Tyson Fury was dropped by 210 pound Steve Cunningham. Fury is 20% heavier than Cunningham. That's the equivalent of a lightweight dropping a middleweight. Can you imagine Terrance Crawford dropping Golovkin? It sounds ridiculous.

          So yeah, I'd have to imagine there's diminishing returns to body weight increasing punch resistance. Probably the reason why there's so many knockouts in the heavyweight division.

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          • Kid-Chocolate
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            #15
            Originally posted by Spray_resistant



            You read my mind

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            • Simurgh
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              #16
              Originally posted by millaross
              If you knew the percentage of fights that ended in a KO in each weight division you could figure it out.... If they're about the same in all divisions, and you agree that punching power scales with weight then punch resistance must also. If the KO percentage gets higher with each weight division then I guess it doesnt scale like that.....
              Great point!

              Nevertheless I do take into account that not all KO/TKO do come from head shots. I do believe that HW are much more resilient to body than head shots.

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              • New England
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                #17
                the larger the fighters, the more likely they are to hurt each other.


                if MW were able to KO HW in boxing matches, they would.

                a man standing to recieve damage is not realistic. if vitali, a great chinned HW, closed his eyes and let golovkin hit him with the right hand, he'd go out.

                if wilder hit vitali when his eyes were closed he might break his neck or kill him. tuscaloosa alabama in the house.

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                • Simurgh
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by New England
                  the larger the fighters, the more likely they are to hurt each other.


                  if MW were able to KO HW in boxing matches, they would.

                  a man standing to recieve damage is not realistic. if vitali, a great chinned HW, closed his eyes and let golovkin hit him with the right hand, he'd go out.

                  if wilder hit vitali when his eyes were closed he might break his neck or kill him. tuscaloosa alabama in the house.
                  Sure. But the point of the question wasn't 'does MW stand a chance against HW'.
                  It's more about what scale faster and how faster (power or resistance).

                  Interesting though, if Vitali closes his eyes and donaire hits him however he likes - would that stunned vitali....

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                  • youth
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                    I look at it diffently, its not the punch, its the chin of the higher weight classes that get better. Not that because someone bigger they have more punch resistance, its just that as you move up in weight they an increase in power. So a direct result of this is, a higher percentage of fighter with world class chins make it up the ranks. Im sure they alot more skilled fighters with less then world class chins, where as you move up chin becomes more of a factor. Higher in weight you go, the more likely to find a fighter whom has a world class chin whom out ranks a fighter whom has much better skills.

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                    • -Kev-
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                      #20
                      When I was 18-20 years old and was really into boxing, I was 140lbs 5' 8". My limit of sparring was 190lbs and below and 6' 3" and below, and yeah they definitely felt my power even with a 50lb advantage. When I sparred a 210 pound dude, that didn't go well for me, he knocked me down twice but I held my own. The knock downs was one I grazed the canvas with one glove and the second one I got put on my butt the same exact way Mikey Garcia went down against Rocky Martinez. I was in shock, I had never been down or so overmatched before. Never again did I spar anyone above 190lbs.

                      But i'm not a boxer, was just really into it and wanted to become one but I imagine an actual trained pro Middleweight boxer would be able to outright KO a HW cold if I at 140 was hurting Cruiserweights, not those huge one's though like Wlad, Vitali, Fury, Wach, but the smaller HW's who are in worse shape yes, some one like Golovkin could KO them with a clean punch.

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