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  • richardt
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    #41
    Originally posted by Beercules
    Me too everyone swears I'm Pinoy (until I posted a picture)
    I pictured you as either this huge Hercules guy with the biggest Beer in his hand or a smaller guy that could outdrink anyone within 5 miles. I am part Italian, part English, part African American.
    Last edited by richardt; 06-02-2014, 04:27 PM.

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    • Citizen Koba
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      #42
      Racism and Nationalism are two very different things despite both their common currency of division, hatred and conflict.

      It's a sorry thing, though hardly surprising, that a universal human interest in combat sports may be less likely to build bridges than a common interest in music or art.

      Damn.. now I am getting drunk.

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      • ßringer
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        #43
        The only thing that we as staff can do is to advise all users to make use of their report button. As is, I get dozens and dozens of e-mails of reported posts daily. I check each and every one of them and honestly, the vast majority of the time the reported post is being reported just because somebody disagrees with what was said. I seriously can't tell you how many posts I've investigated just this past week that were just a Mayweather fan reporting a Pacquiao fan's post or vice versa.

        Actual incidents of racism are exceedingly rare here and, when they occur, are dealt with swiftly by our staff. Bans are handed out, accounts suspended, threads closed, posts deleted - You name it.

        The reality of the situation is that we can't be everywhere, every day, all the time.

        This is why we urge you to make use of your report button when it's actually needed. Not just because somebody trolled you or dissed your favorite fighter or any other of the multitude of ******ed reasons people report posts here.

        Also - Read the ****ing rules. I can't stress this enough. Just because something irritates you that doesn't make it a bannable offense.

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        • prolific
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          #44
          Boxing promotions are predicated on nationalism... And to some degree racial partiality (won't call it racism). Many cards are white vs. black, pr vs. Mexico, Mexico vs. black.they know that people support their own. On top of that... Some fighters instigate the tension for more press... I.e. Hopkins vs. pr, comacho vs. Mexico, Mayweathers vs. Mexico, Hopkins vs. white people....

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          • ßringer
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            #45
            Originally posted by Divine Hammer
            i got called filipino by one guy because I support pacquiao.

            i'm not filipino. I'm half french and half colombian.
            I don't see how that can even be construed as being racist. That's just somebody making a ****** generalization about Pacquiao fans all being from the Philippines.

            People used to assume that I was black (despite the fact that I have a picture of myself in my profile) because I was a vocal Hopkins supporter back when he was unpopular here. I never cried racism over it. Why? Because it wasn't racism, it was just ******ity.

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            • Holywarrior
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              #46
              Originally posted by ßringer
              The only thing that we as staff can do is to advise all users to make use of their report button. As is, I get dozens and dozens of e-mails of reported posts daily. I check each and every one of them and honestly, the vast majority of the time the reported post is being reported just because somebody disagrees with what was said. I seriously can't tell you how many posts I've investigated just this past week that were just a Mayweather fan reporting a Pacquiao fan's post or vice versa.

              Actual incidents of racism are exceedingly rare here and, when they occur, are dealt with swiftly by our staff. Bans are handed out, accounts suspended, threads closed, posts deleted - You name it.

              The reality of the situation is that we can't be everywhere, every day, all the time.

              This is why we urge you to make use of your report button when it's actually needed. Not just because somebody trolled you or dissed your favorite fighter or any other of the multitude of ******ed reasons people report posts here.

              Also - Read the ****ing rules. I can't stress this enough. Just because something irritates you that doesn't make it a bannable offense.
              So what about my ID page? good work mods

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              • ßringer
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                #47
                Regarding nationalism - It's a touchy subject. Lots of grey area there.

                Historically, this is a sport that has been promoted as a nationalistic conflict. Hell, it was even promoted as a racial conflict way back in the day. But while we as a species have matured and our views on race have become more evolved, our views on nationalism are still pretty ****ing primitive.

                If you need an example just look at how it's socially acceptable to be "proud to be (insert country of birth here)." Hell, look at all the Puerto Ricans in this thread acting like it's no big deal. They're proud of where they come from.

                Personally, I think an individual should only take pride in their actual achievements as a human being. I think it's ******ed to be "proud" of something that was the product of chance.

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                • ßringer
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                  #48
                  Originally posted by Holywarrior
                  So what about my ID page? good work mods
                  I'm looking at it right now.

                  What is racist about the messages left for you? Please, elaborate.

                  Mentioning race =/= Racism.

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                  • Spray_resistant
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                    #49
                    Originally posted by HonestBoxingFan
                    So... Since joining this board, I have experienced being called British because I'm a Froch fan. Well... I'm not British.

                    I see Americans and Europeans dissing each other everywhere. And I see lot of "Froch is just popular because he's white!", "You just hate Mayweather because he's black!", etc... Seriously, it's very primitive.

                    I'm white, I was engaged to a black girl until some problems arised a few days ago, most of my friends are from the Middle East or Eastern Europe, some black friends here and there, my aunt and cousin is Vietnamese, etc... My daily life is very multiracial, so to say. This place absolutely disgusts me.

                    Many have died fighting racism and I love being surrounded by different people, but it's as if this place is just full of horrible people and nationalists...

                    Appreciate boxers for their skills and epic battles, not their nationalities or races, and don't be too quick about calling others racist or nationalist, you never know what kind of person is behind the screen.

                    I considered leaving the place today, but then again, I would come back anyway when a big fight happened, so might as well stay. But please think about this, wouldn't this place be better if people pulled themselves together?
                    This is how boxing is because there are no teams and people identify with fighters from their own background, you don't like it? go watch ping pong matches nancy boy.

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                    • Holywarrior
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                      #50
                      Originally posted by ßringer
                      I'm looking at it right now.

                      What is racist about the messages left for you? Please, elaborate.

                      Mentioning race =/= Racism.
                      If youre asking how, you shouldn't be a mod.

                      A clear as day alt bothering others of their race? Whatever gets you off

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