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  • gandhalf
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    Pro Boxer fights in mma tomorrow!

    Tomorrow, in japan's Pride fc cruiserweight boxing fighter Yosuke Nishijima http://www.boxrec.com/boxer_display.php?boxer_id=022476

    Will be fighting under Pride fc rules. (meaning that kicks,knees,stomps,soccer kicks,slams,knee strikes on a downed opponent, submissions, chokes etc..are all allowed.)

    Here's his impressions of mma , his training and some other stuff.. (pre fight interview)

    He said...

    The open finger glove is light and easy to punch with, and it's hard so there is more impact. In my fight don't just look for a slugfest but watch for my boxing technique. If it's boxing technique I'm confident I won't lose anyone in Pride

    about training kicks..

    I went to Croatia, US, and Holland. Did some light sparring with Mirko, on the feet and some on the ground. He taught me a little about kicks too. I learned the dangerousness of Mirko's strikes too.

    (mirko is a well known pro kickboxer/mma fighter of Pride fc)

    His observation about boxing & mma style...

    If it was straight punching then boxing is more fearsome, but in MMA there's tackles and kicks and it's hard to maintain focus just on punching, and if I get punched in that state then the result may be devastating. Receiving a punch like that, even if it isn't a very strong punch, can knock you down.

    About the ground..and kicks combos

    Ground work is fascinating. The balance when you're on top of someone is difficult too. It's fun for me to advance to a level where if I'm mounted I can figure out a way to escape. When things you weren't successful at first start to come to you, I feel some progress. At the Takada dojo they taught me some joint locks but it's far from a level where I can apply it in a real match.

    In Holland Lucian Calvin (Alistair's coach) taught me. Fedor was there too, although his hand was injured and he didn't practice. Calvin taught me kicks and knees, and also some punch combinations.


    (lucien calvin is a famous kickboxing trainer from holland, "alistair" is a pride fc fighter , and so is Fedor. Who also happens to be the most dangerous sambo fighter in mma history).

    Well, win or lose..I hope He's gonna win this. His opponent is very heavy (132kg) but He's no ground fighter. So this gives an advantage to the boxer. However, the other guy is very good with his knee & kicks combos. His boxing technic is not very good ,However He has real KO power and his chin is very good.)

    So it's gonna be interesting because this time, the pro boxer won't have to deal witht the ground phase of mma.
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    But who's he fighting? A Pride guy with any experience in grappling is gonna take the boxer down first thing, whether he can also fight standing up or not. And with a guy that size, fat chance the boxer will be able to stand up again, and his hard punches and accuracy are going to disappear on the ground. Hard to win a grappling/striking match against quality opposition without some ground skills. The guy would have a much better chance in K-1, as only kick defense would be necessary. Now, if his opponent isn't too good and, better yet, fat and slow, then a boxer his size has a good chance to flatten him using ring generalship and side-to-side movement, especially given the punches are that much harder due to the small gloves.

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    • Konstantin
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      This also isnt exactly the greatest boxer in the world...

      He's drawn and won SDs against ppl with losing records. He has also been knocked out by a 12-6-1 fighter.

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        Originally posted by yrrej
        But who's he fighting? A Pride guy with any experience in grappling is gonna take the boxer down first thing, whether he can also fight standing up or not. And with a guy that size, fat chance the boxer will be able to stand up again, and his hard punches and accuracy are going to disappear on the ground. Hard to win a grappling/striking match against quality opposition without some ground skills. The guy would have a much better chance in K-1, as only kick defense would be necessary. Now, if his opponent isn't too good and, better yet, fat and slow, then a boxer his size has a good chance to flatten him using ring generalship and side-to-side movement, especially given the punches are that much harder due to the small gloves.
        He's fighting Mark Hunt. Hunt had 2 fights in boxing. (but never bothered to continue in this sport.) He had a few losses in kickboxing but became popular at one point in his career because despite losing a few times here and there..He managed to beat the odds and defeat some top fighters.

        Like when Hasim Rahman Koed Lennox Lewis..in boxing..
        Hunt managed to brutally KO some top kickboxers and won some decisions too...

        Here's a video of Mark Hunt (a mini retrospective of his career)


        Like, David Tua, Hunt is a samoan.
        Only the similitude stops here.
        Hunt doesn't fight like a boxer at all.

        What's surprising abou the guy though, is that His stamina is pretty amazing for a guy of his size. (nearly 300lbs) , his chin is pretty impressive too. His knee and kick attacks are also very good. And He's got punching power. and a lot of courage.

        But He's not a boxer nor a real mma fighter, So it'll be interesting to see the outcome of this fight despite the weight difference. Nishijima can outbox Hunt for sure.
        But Hunt can throw some brutal knees and kicks during the clinch and throw some bombs here and there...

        It's gonna be interesting because both aren't ground fighters..
        Last edited by gandhalf; 02-25-2006, 02:54 PM.

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          #5
          Originally posted by Konstantin
          This also isnt exactly the greatest boxer in the world...

          He's drawn and won SDs against ppl with losing records. He has also been knocked out by a 12-6-1 fighter.
          Yes, but like I said..Despite all that..It's still gonna be more interesting than usual cause his opponent isn't gonna go for submissions or ground and pound..etc.. Both will probably avoid the ground. At least, that's a high probability.

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            This is ******.

            Mark Hunt is going to ****ing murder his ass....and that's a bad opponent to use as a comparison between Boxer/MMA.

            Put a tougher guy in there.....like a Tua see what happens.



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              #7
              Originally posted by RunWithKnives
              This is ******.

              Mark Hunt is going to ****ing murder his ass....and that's a bad opponent to use as a comparison between Boxer/MMA.

              Put a tougher guy in there.....like a Tua see what happens.
              Imo..Nishijima can still outbox Hunt.

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                #8
                Originally posted by gandhalf
                Imo..Nishijima can still outbox Hunt.
                yeah perhaps. But if Hunt Catches him what happens? this guy has been fighting museum tour guides and hunt has been in there with some tough cookies.

                Dude he beat Cro Cop. LOL.



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                Last edited by Run; 02-25-2006, 03:00 PM.

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by RunWithKnives
                  yeah perhaps. But if Hunt Catches him what happens? this guy has been fighting museum tour guides and hunt has been in there with some tough cookies.
                  Sure, but Nishijima has the best experience...Hunt can always catch him with a bomb but that's it..Hunt is a poor man's version of Tua.

                  And the only reason why Hunt achieved some rather incredible things in his career is because He's like a human tank..He never quits, has some lethal knee strikes and powerful punches..

                  BUT!...What if Hunt's pride is part of the game?..Let's say He wants to fight the boxer's game? Then I think Nishijima has chances on his side.
                  Hunt is no mma fighter. He's just an endurant and extremely powerful fighter who improvises during his fights. win or lose..You never quite know what will happen cause He's inconsistent.

                  It could be an interesting fight...I really believe this..
                  Unlike MATT SKELTON , in Pride fc

                  who was fighting vs a wrestler...

                  This time around..The boxer will fight another stand up fighter.

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by RunWithKnives

                    Dude he beat Cro Cop. LOL.
                    Via split decision. And Crocop had a ****ty game plan. Crocop landed some of the best shots. but still , the judges gave it to Hunt.
                    That fight could've gone either way.
                    But I think the judges gave to Hunt cause Mirko was running too much. He wasn't pressing the fight.
                    Plus, keep in mind that Mirko had a problem with his foot.

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