Comments Thread For: Roach Admits: Pacquiao vs. Provodnikov Could Happen

[The Big Dunn]

also in the pass u said u dont like to watch manny fight guys that u know he will beat, cherry picking type fight. well ruslan and pac was sparring partner. this doesnt ring any bell in ur head?

I don't use the term cherry picking. True, I prefer to see Manny in fights I don't know he will win. WHat does that have to do with this fight.

Do you know Manny is going to win?

[Evol]

what is with you? your "I gotta protect manny"mindset is making it inrcreasingly difficult to continue any real discussion with you. you actually posted that you think the reason I've suggested they fight is so the ppv will flop.

you are slowly inching into the kuyukut,makavelli, beercules, toyman, cgarcia. etc. fringe and I don't understand why. I am one of the few diehard floyd fans who actually argues with others that you are not one of those clowns. you are making that very hard.

Unless Manny can make a fight with a non TR opponent like porter, thurman, garcia, matts, broner, I'd like to see him fight a new in house opponent in ruslan. No more, no less.

You have made way too much of this since I 1st brought this fight up. If you prefer another opponent, cool.

what is the purpose of a robbery and a rematch for this fight if they ever did fight eachother? please explain.

[Evol]

I don't use the term cherry picking. True, I prefer to see Manny in fights I don't know he will win. WHat does that have to do with this fight.

Do you know Manny is going to win?

hmm lets see maybe because they sparred eachother before, maybe because roach trains both guys and will be in manny's corner instead. maybe its because roach will know all of ruslan's weakness since he trains him? so all this doesnt matter to u right?? but a come foward guy like rios was all a cherry pick fight for manny to make him look good after the ko, etc etc etc.

[Evol]

I don't use the term cherry picking. True, I prefer to see Manny in fights I don't know he will win. WHat does that have to do with this fight.

Do you know Manny is going to win?

funny how u complain that they picked rios over mike because rios is a come foward fighter, tailor made to make manny look good. yet u dont see anything wrong with ruslan being trained by roach and has sparred manny before? but with rios a come foward fighter u made such a big deal about it LOL

[Evol]

in the pass i said ruslan will be an opponent on the sideline for manny if bob cant find any other worthy enough opponents for manny. this shows u that bob is not really interested in making this fight unless he has too because it will not do good numbers. so why would bob purposely have this fight fixed beforehand when he's been avoiding it? LOL!!!!

[The Big Dunn]

he complains about pac cherry picking easy fights, pac and ruslan was sparring partners and have the same trainer. this calls for an "easy fight". u know the thing he was so against about. and i dont like sativa, indica for me only.

No need to lie, I don't use the term cherry picking. Yes they were sparring partners. SO were Porter and Manny and I don't think you have a problem with them fighting.

what is the purpose of a robbery and a rematch for this fight if they ever did fight eachother? please explain.

the same reason it happened with tim I suppose.

hmm lets see maybe because they sparred eachother before, maybe because roach trains both guys and will be in manny's corner instead. maybe its because roach will know all of ruslan's weakness since he trains him? so all this doesnt matter to u right?? but a come foward guy like rios was all a cherry pick fight for manny to make him look good after the ko, etc etc etc.

Since they sparred before, that means ruslan knows all of manny's weaknesses as well. Since both know each others strengths and weaknesses, the fight might be a good one. your assumption is knowledge only benefits one fighter.

Rios is Rios. Ruslan is Ruslan. Just because Manny outboxed rios for 12 rds doesn't mean the ruslan fight will go the same. WHat others have said is their opinion. I didn't care for a Rios fight primarily because he lost the previous fight and because he was a jww moving up.

Ruslan is also a JWW moving up. but the only fresh inhouse fight other than this is ALvarado, which IMO should've been made after he beat rios. I don't think you make that fight after he lost to JMM. WHat other people you debated may have felt or said I can't address.

You seem adamant that they not fight. Why, I have no idea. Others in this thread agree that it would be a good to see Manny fight a different in house fight.

Take this up with them.

[Evol]

No need to lie, I don't use the term cherry picking. Yes they were sparring partners. SO were Porter and Manny and I don't think you have a problem with them fighting.



the same reason it happened with tim I suppose.



Since they sparred before, that means ruslan knows all of manny's weaknesses as well. Since both know each others strengths and weaknesses, the fight might be a good one. your assumption is knowledge only benefits one fighter.

Rios is Rios. Ruslan is Ruslan. Just because Manny outboxed rios for 12 rds doesn't mean the ruslan fight will go the same. WHat others have said is their opinion. I didn't care for a Rios fight primarily because he lost the previos fight. WHat other people you debated may have felt I can't speak for.

You seem adamant that they not fight. Why, I have no idea. Others in this thread agree that it would be a good to see Manny fight a different in house fight.

Take this up with them.

im using the term cherry picking to describe u saying pac pick fighters he knows he will beat. i didnt said u use that term. and because they sparred eachother BOTH of them will know eachother pretty well, except roach is the trainer so he see things manny and ruslan does not. so now rios is just rios and ruslan is ruslan? so then why would bob try to fixed this fight? tim was tim and ruslan is ruslan, same logic u used with rios right lmao!!! and people is calling for this fight? really? who, u? maybe my reasons why i dont want to see this fight is the same reason why u want to see it so bad. so let me asked u, why do u want to see this fight so bad?

[AP♠]

Another cherry pick these two guys are practically friends, sparred and hung out in the same gym. Friendship won't sell a fight nor ppvs.

[Evol]

Another cherry pick these two guys are practically friends, sparred and hung out in the same gym. Friendship won't sell a fight nor ppvs.

one person on this thread doesnt believe so.

[The Big Dunn]

funny how u complain that they picked rios over mike because rios is a come foward fighter, tailor made to make manny look good. yet u dont see anything wrong with ruslan being trained by roach and has sparred manny before? but with rios a come foward fighter u made such a big deal about it LOL

in the pass i said ruslan will be an opponent on the sideline for manny if bob cant find any other worthy enough opponents for manny. this shows u that bob is not really interested in making this fight unless he has too because it will not do good numbers. so why would bob purposely have this fight fixed beforehand when he's been avoiding it? LOL!!!!

im using the term cherry picking to describe u saying pac pick fighters he knows he will beat. i didnt said u use that term. and because they sparred eachother BOTH of them will know eachother pretty well, except roach is the trainer so he see things manny and ruslan does not. so now rios is just rios and ruslan is ruslan? so then why would bob try to fixed this fight? tim was tim and ruslan is ruslan, same logic u used with rios right lmao!!! and people is calling for this fight? really? who, u? maybe my reasons why i dont want to see this fight is the same reason why u want to see it so bad.

You are getting more and more irrational with each post. there is really no point to this anymore.

Others in this thread agree that it would be a good to see Manny fight a different in house fight. ask them. maybe they can provide you with the reasons they feel this way and you can berate them.

Unless circumstances allow Manny to fight one of the fighters I suggested, including a guy who he also sparred with, I would prefer a ruslan fight to JMM 5 or any other inhouse TR fight.

That statement doesn't require a huge debate.