does anyone actually have prove that showtime is losing money?

[The Big Dunn]

notice how threads like this fade away or get ignored after someone posts facts?

EIther that or they will come in and tell you the NYTimes and the hollywood reporter are not valid sources.

[DeadLikeMe]

do you notice the trend?

USADA = bad
Showtime = bad
Schafer = bad
Haymon = bad
Random testing in general = bad (until marquez put that boy to sleep)

HBO = good
Arum = good
Konzcz = good

Except for Pac-Mosley then it was:

HBO - bad and being replaced by Showtime and 24/7 sucks
Showtime - good and the future of televised boxing in the US. Strongest network backed by CBS.

[wiz1030]

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/05/09/bu...time.html?_r=0

We know that they're profitable, at the very least, which means they aren't losing money as suggested on this website.

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/cbs-quarterly-earnings-beat-estimates-702419

"CBS said growth at cable networks was driven by revenue generated by Showtime, CBS Sports Network and Smithsonian Networks."

Incomplete information. What's boxing's footprint at the network? With Floyd being such a draw you'd think that if it were driving revenues it would get acknowledged.

What's argued frequently on here is Showtime's Floyd PPV's aren't profitable. These articles don't tell us anything in regard to that.

[arraamis]

notice how threads like this fade away or get ignored after someone posts facts?

Facts and reality are what kills BS ******ed threads in NSB. Some\most guys here with their silly agenda's avoid facts and truth like the plague.

[jcpryor]

Incomplete information. What's boxing's footprint at the network? With Floyd being such a draw you'd think that if it were driving revenues it would get acknowledged.

What's argued frequently on here is Showtime's Floyd PPV's aren't profitable. These articles don't tell us anything in regard to that.

Oh, Ok.

Do you have proof that Floyd's PPVs aren't profitable? I just gave you proof that says that showtime remains profitable. I'm willing and able to provide more proof if you can provide one shred of factual proof on your end that says otherwise.

I thought the argument like 1 week ago was that Floyd was going to put showtime out of business, btw?

[soul_survivor]

I see this being stated alot around here but ive never seen any proove of it. Can you please post a source? Or are you simply upset cause Floyd fights on showtime and anything related and tied to him makes you upset like a female?

it's spelled "PROOF" ma****a!

****!

[prince21]

And this affects you how exactly? They could be making or losing trillions, you're still stuck working a 9-5, probably baby sitting to make ends meet and can't even afford a PPV. Again, why are these numbers important to you as a fan of the sport?

Of course it affects us all. If showtime, one of the two major networks decreases the boxing budget because they are losing money in the process. It affects even you

[bopbopbbe]

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/05/09/bu...time.html?_r=0

We know that they're profitable, at the very least, which means they aren't losing money as suggested on this website.

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/cbs-quarterly-earnings-beat-estimates-702419

"CBS said growth at cable networks was driven by revenue generated by Showtime, CBS Sports Network and Smithsonian Networks."

I think this just shows how small boxing really is in the scheme of things. Showtime Sports is just a part of Showtime which itself is a even smaller part of CBS. Even if Showtime Sports is losing a lot of money if the rest of Showtime does well I guess it doesn't really matter. At this point gaining market share is more important.

[Holywarrior]

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/05/09/bu...time.html?_r=0

We know that they're profitable, at the very least, which means they aren't losing money as suggested on this website.

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/cbs-quarterly-earnings-beat-estimates-702419

"CBS said growth at cable networks was driven by revenue generated by Showtime, CBS Sports Network and Smithsonian Networks."

Nice work.

[jcpryor]

I think this just shows how small boxing really is in the scheme of things. Showtime Sports is just a part of Showtime which itself is a even smaller part of CBS. Even if Showtime Sports is losing a lot of money if the rest of Showtime does well I guess it doesn't really matter. At this point gaining market share is more important.

You hit the nail on the head. It really DOESN'T matter, which is the entire point. People only started talking about how much networks gain or lose during a ppv event after Floyd signed his deal, which is sad.