just stop it, there is no way you can argue pac man being #2 p4p

[M Bison]

TBH I was banned only one time,and tbh I'm yet to know what for..I've never been racist or anything on this site..Yet I was banned for no reason at all bro,so I guess it happens..

I got banned for (jokingly) comparing Kimbo Slice with Rocky Marciano

[The Big Dunn]

TBH I was banned only one time,and tbh I'm yet to know what for..I've never been racist or anything on this site..Yet I was banned for no reason at all bro,so I guess it happens..

I made a comment to way2strong about his mother and sister in a thread that was deleted by the mods the 3 times he created it. The post got reported. Hence, a ban.

This was following me getting banned for calling kovalev 3k (which a lot did) and me responding to Hectari calling me a racist by making and offensive post about Ashanti and Manny being together. I definitely deserved the ban for that.

The past year I have gotten banned a few times while not getting banned previously. I guess I've been going too hard. I'll just leave all the BS alone.

[M Bison]

I made a comment to way2strong about his mother and sister in a thread that was deleted by the mods the 3 times he created it. The post got reported. Hence, a ban.

This was following me getting banned for calling kovalev 3k (which a lot did) and me responding to Hectari calling me a racist by making and offensive post about Ashanti and Manny being together. I definitely deserved the ban for that.

The past year I have gotten banned a few times while not getting banned previously. I guess I've been going too hard. I'll just leave all the BS alone.

[hugh grant]

. I definitely deserved the ban for that.

The past year I have gotten banned a few times while not getting banned previously. I guess I've been going too hard. I'll just leave all the BS alone.

I don't understand all this banned stuff, so why are you still allowed to post if you were banned, are you allowed back on parole or something? You should just control yourself a bit better.

I don't get banned as im well behaved on this forum and don't get carried away with all the people who deliberately try to troll. Whenever I post I have never any doubts nothing I say is controversial. Some of my posts are deleted for some reason, and maybe the threads are as well.

But Pac is no1 above Floyd. Pacs been there, done that, bought the t shirt. Yes, he lost but came back and is beating p4p no3 fighters, he has gone full circle.
No one more deserving of being no1. Floyd is no2 based on his last performance

[The Big Dunn]

I don't understand all this banned stuff, so why are you still allowed to post if you were banned, are you allowed back on parole or something? You should just control yourself a bit better.

I don't get banned as im well behaved on this forum and don't get carried away with all the people who deliberately try to troll. Whenever I post I have never any doubts nothing I say is controversial. Some of my posts are deleted for some reason, and maybe the threads are as well.

But Pac is no1 above Floyd. Pacs been there, done that, bought the t shirt. Yes, he lost but came back and is beating p4p no3 fighters, he has gone full circle.
No one more deserving of being no1. Floyd is no2 based on his last performance

Manny is top 5 p4p, thats about it. Floyd will remain in the #1 spot in all reasonable, objective polls, especially those where multiple media/writers vote. Winning a tougher than expected fight doesn't mean you drop.

Posters like you said tim wasn't a top p4p fighter and that he lost to Manny (i agree) and Ruslan (I don't agree) and was close with JMM. You changed to saying he was undefeated, p4p4p #3 only after the rematch was signed.

I expect you to change up. One of your 1st posts was about Hatton beating floyd and since that never happened you have been unable to be objective and have flip flopped numerous times.

[hugh grant]

Manny is top 3 p4p, thats about it. Floyd will remain in the #1 spot in all reasonable, objective polls, especially those where multiple media/writers vote. Winning a tougher than expected fight doesn't mean you drop.

Posters like you said tim wasn't a top p4p fighter and that he lost to Manny (i agree) and Ruslan (I don't agree) and was close with JMM. You changed to saying he was undefeated, p4p4p #3 only after the rematch was signed.
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Yes we know Floyd will remain no1, but why he remains no1 people don't know the reason for it, other than he is American. Not everyone thinks its deserved that's for sure.

Tim was considered a top 10 p4p fighter before Pac fought Tim the first time. And when he beat Pac he went to no3, because you get rewarded for taking risks, he could have gone to no1 if the powers that be were wanting to be generous, but considering most thought he lost to Pac, they thought making Bradley no1 would be going a little too far.

FLoyd arguably lost to Maidana, so therefore isn't no1 p4p. He can change that instantly if he performs against the right opponent next.
If you fight bums, you are expected to look fantastic and if you don't there are consequences. Floyd was playing a dangerous game with his cherry picking and it can backfire that is the risk you take, and it went wrong this time for Floyd. When other times it has gone right for Floyd, like against Ortiz and Guerrero.
Pac could look good against the Rios for ever if he wanted to, but if he didn't, have no doubt Pac would have been punished.

[The Big Dunn]

Yes we know Floyd will remain no1, but why he remains no1 people don't know the reason for it, other than he is American. Not everyone thinks its deserved that's for sure.

Tim was considered a top 10 p4p fighter before Pac fought Tim the first time. And when he beat Pac he went to no3, because you get rewarded for taking risks, he could have gone to no1 if the powers that be were wanting to be generous, but considering most thought he lost to Pac, they thought making Bradley no1 would be going a little too far.

FLoyd arguably lost to Maidana, so therefore isn't no1 p4p. He can change that instantly if he performs against the right opponent next.
If you fight bums, you are expected to look fantastic and if you don't there are consequences. Floyd was playing a dangerous game with his cherry picking and it can backfire that is the risk you take, and it went wrong this time for Floyd. When other times it has gone right for Floyd.

Manny is top 5, no need to edit my post.

Reasonable, objective boxing media/writers think he deserves it. Thats all that I am concrened about. Can't be worried about the crazy opinions of NSB denziens like yourself.

You said Manny beat tim the 1st fight. ALmost all media/writers did as well. You argued strongly he did. Then you flip flopped when the rematch was signed. As such, I will hold you to your original opinion before you thought changing would benefit Manny.

Maidana was the best non HBO affiliated WW and as such, got the floyd fight.
Floyd won a close fight. The overwhelming majority of writers/media felt same, If you disagree, it doesn't matter because you've shown an inability to remain objective and consistent.

In boxing you get rewarded for winning tough close fights. Here on NSB, well thats another story that sadly, illustrates how far right from the sports traditions you and others have moved this board.

[hugh grant]

Manny is top 3, not no1.


In boxing you get rewarded for winning tough close fights. Here on NSB, well thats another story that sadly, illustrates how far right from the sports traditions you and others have moved this board.

No, you have it wrong here. Floyd would be rewarded for winning a tough fight against someone considered his equal or near to being his equal. Not having a tough fight against someone everyone expects you to beat 12 rounds as you cherry picked him.

There is no way Pac would have been rewarded for having a tough fight with Rios, even if Pac has been coming off of a ko loss to JMM its a dog eat dog world and people aren't that empathetic around these parts, especially if you are Floyd fans

On the other hand you don't get penalized for getting ko'ed if you are fighting p4p no3 fighters and are chasing the ko against them.

[fighter1234]

No, you have it wrong here. Floyd would be rewarded for winning a tough fight against someone considered his equal or near to being his equal. Not having a tough fight against someone everyone expects you to beat 12 rounds as you cherry picked him.

There is no way Pac would have been rewarded for having a tough fight with Rios, even if Pac has been coming off of a ko loss to JMM its a dog eat dog world and people aren't that empathetic around these parts, especially if you are Floyd fans

On the other hand you don't get penalized for getting ko'ed if you are fighting p4p no3 fighters and are chasing the ko against them.

Oh just shut up already.
The Big Dinn has already made you look like a clown, no need to further reinforce it with statements like that.

[Divine Hammer]

my personal top 3 is:

1. wlad
2. pacquiao
3. mayweather

wlad has been consistently dominant for YEARS and is an atg heavyweight and deserves the #1 spot for all of his achievements and accolades.

pacquiao, despite getting KO'ed by his main rival, is still able to dominate prime top p4p fighters like bradley.

mayweather is still a great fighter, but honestly his last few wins have been mediocre at best. he BARELY beat a basic slow plodding maidana (and honestly floyd looked like an amateur), canelo was a manufactured hype job who only had one okay win (trout), guerrero is mediocre as well, and beating a bloated and past prime cotto was an okay win but nothing to get excited about either. floyd really hasn't fought a legitimate top ten p4p'er in awhile.

ward hasn't had a meaningful win in awhile, and dawson was clearly weight drained (coming down 7-8 lbs).

and rigo beat donaire (who was ranked #5 at the time) and that's it. i'd rank rigo #5 behind ward.