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  • frosty-g
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    #21
    Originally posted by PBP
    What I want to see is how Cuban fighters will look now that the amateur system uses a 10 point must.

    The transition from amateurs to pros may be a lot easier and you may see fighters with a more diverse skill set that will be more marketable to the public.
    Watch the AIBA World Series of Boxing

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      #22
      The Cuba team have steamrollered most of the opposition in this, their first season competing in the WSB, which is of course pretty much professional boxing if not quite exactly that.

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        #23
        Originally posted by frosty-g
        The Cuba team have steamrollered most of the opposition in this, their first season competing in the WSB, which is of course pretty much professional boxing if not quite exactly that.
        Very good comparison. WSB is a great indicator of things to come. Unless the whole Cuban team defects before the Olympics!

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        • Street
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          #24
          No doubt about it. Cuban boxing is noted around the world and Cuba would be a Powerhouse in pro boxing if only politics could be set aside. The sport of boxing is missing out on a great pool of talent from Cuba.

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          • soul_survivor
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            #25
            Originally posted by CubanGuyNYC
            And, prior to that, Cuban amateurs fought in a much more "professional" style.



            Luis breathed the mountaintop air for a brief moment. He beat Griffith for the welterweight title, but lost it back to Emile three months later. (Had to look this up. Rodriguez's title reign was so short, I thought he never held a belt!)
            Yeah, no wonder, I felt that Luis didn't hold a title either, good fact! Solid fighter with a terrific resume, one of the forgotten gems of boxing.

            Originally posted by Street
            No doubt about it. Cuban boxing is noted around the world and Cuba would be a Powerhouse in pro boxing if only politics could be set aside. The sport of boxing is missing out on a great pool of talent from Cuba.
            Like I said earlier, I think Cuban law has changed and Cuban fighters are allowed to turn pro now, that's what I heard some months back. Maybe it is in the works and hasn't been fully implemented.

            But I agree, if the political situation was different, could you imagine the likes of Savon in the pro heavyweight ranks? It would have been interesting to say the least, or Kindelan fighting it out at bantam-feather? Things owuld have looked very different.

            Kindelan v Barrera at super bantam....

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              #26
              Originally posted by killamoneymike
              yea really. op boxing is boxing it doesnt matter what the hell ethnicity you are the only one that brought it up was you lol.
              no, op is right.

              it has nothing to do with ethnicity and nobody said it did, but there are different schools of boxing in various parts of the world. mexican fighters generally fight a certain way, cubans in another, eastern europeans in their own etc.

              not everyone chooses to follow the tradition and some fighters box in a manner different from their countrymen. but most fighters who come up in a country with a strong boxing tradition will be a product of that specific system and their style will reflect it.

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                #27
                Originally posted by soul_survivor
                Like I said earlier, I think Cuban law has changed and Cuban fighters are allowed to turn pro now, that's what I heard some months back. Maybe it is in the works and hasn't been fully implemented.
                I'm aware that the Cuban government has recently made some changes where they allow their athletes to compete professionally. I don't know all the ins-and-outs, but I do know it's nothing like the freedoms athletes from other countries enjoy. The Cuban government takes a piece out of every dollar that comes in the direction of any of its citizens. Where the athletes are concerned, the government is, let's say, more of a "partner." It's really disgusting, and it makes me sick to think about it as I write. I can't wait till that communist system finally crumbles and disappears from the face of the earth.

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by #1Assassin
                  no, op is right.

                  it has nothing to do with ethnicity and nobody said it did, but there are different schools of boxing in various parts of the world. mexican fighters generally fight a certain way, cubans in another, eastern europeans in their own etc.

                  not everyone chooses to follow the tradition and some fighters box in a manner different from their countrymen. but most fighters who come up in a country with a strong boxing tradition will be a product of that specific system and their style will reflect it.
                  yeah, styles are vastly different between various nations, Cuban fighters have often been highly skilled technicians with tremendous defensive sensibilities (doesn't mean they're all boring, some of these guys have been huge punchers).

                  Now take a european fighter, apart from those trained in the Ingle gym, most have a very straight forward, stand up tall, hands up high style. They like to fight behind a steady jab, a decent work rate and guts. IMO it's not a very attractive style but it produces fireworks.

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by soul_survivor
                    yeah, styles are vastly different between various nations, Cuban fighters have often been highly skilled technicians with tremendous defensive sensibilities (doesn't mean they're all boring, some of these guys have been huge punchers).

                    Now take a european fighter, apart from those trained in the Ingle gym, most have a very straight forward, stand up tall, hands up high style. They like to fight behind a steady jab, a decent work rate and guts. IMO it's not a very attractive style but it produces fireworks.
                    i personally enjoy watching fluid technicians, its like poetry in motion to me. guys who think and make adjustments as the fight goes on too, i like to see guys battling with their minds to stay one step ahead of the other. then compare their thought process to my own as im watching the fight.

                    rock em sock em robots can be a good change of pace on occasion, but to much of it and i will get bored quickly. i like to learn something about boxing when i watch a fight.

                    everyone loves a puncher though, but i prefer the type of punchers who are patient and set their opponents up with skills and intelligence. like the cuban punchers you speak of. watching rigondeaux set guys up for his left hand and walk them into it over and over again by making subtle adjustments is a thing of beauty. they know its coming but he has so much skill and intelligence he finds ways to tag them regardless, does it while looking like he is taking nice stroll though the park as well. lol. tittie pretty, my man. tittie pretty.
                    Last edited by #1Assassin; 05-21-2014, 03:17 PM.

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by Cuauhtémoc1520
                      There is such thing as Cuban boxing. It is a different school of boxing, with a different style and training method.

                      If you don't know that each country has differences in styles and schools, then you need to learn more about boxing.

                      There's a Mexican school of boxing, Europeans fight in a certain way, Cuban boxing, etc...


                      blocking punches with the forehead and liver.

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