So about Marquez Vs Pacquiao 5

[Joshua Child]

I don't need to see a 5th fight. I don't need to see Alvarado either.

We all know what fights should be made but with the current state of affairs we're screwed as boxing aficionados.

[JOM'S]

I don't need to see a 5th fight. I don't need to see Alvarado either.

We all know what fights should be made but with the current state of affairs we're screwed as boxing aficionados.

you may not need to see it bro, but I do want to see it and wont mind if it is made....

if not this I want to see Pac-PBF but not everything we want happens

[ADP02]

I would love to see a 5th fight between the two. I don't think you would find too many fans that would say they did not enjoy the 4 fights. Outside of PBF, there's really no other matchup that I'm drooling to see PAC in.

The problem with PAC is, for some reason he doesn't move to his right. That's all he needs to do to Juanita. He's clearly a step quicker than Juanita. Stay away from that right-hand and PAC will have his easiest victory to date since he started fighting Juanita.

Good point .... actually he does at times and when he does, it works beautifully. Marquez can't touch him. The thing is that until the 4th fight, while it helped Marquez out, he was never able to knock down or KO Manny with it so Manny/Roach probably didn't feel the need to go that route all the time.

[MBE]

So the rivalry is 0-0 right now?

Nope it's 2-1-1 but I'm talking about how to make a definitive ending. One where no one can be accused of cheating. It would require Olympic style drug testing that includes carbon isotope blood testing which Marquez refused for the Bradley fight

[Public_Enemy]

Nope it's 2-1-1 but I'm talking about how to make a definitive ending. One where no one can be accused of cheating. It would require Olympic style drug testing that includes carbon isotope blood testing which Marquez refused for the Bradley fight

Marquez/Bradley had the same testing as Pacquiao/Bradley II. They used a stricter version of the NSAC testing. The testing used WADA testers, facilities and regulations.

Also, it doesn't matter if they use VADA, USADA or NSAC's extensive testing there will still be scrutiny. They won't be tested year round so the added testing won't be as effective.

[samouraï]

Jmm by brutal ko again and hopefully this ends their trilogy

It's not a trilogy if there's five fúcking fights, dummy.

[ADP02]

I did some research I found Henry Armstrong vs Baby Arizmendi also fought 5 times I have yet to see if a rivalry fought more than 5

SRR vs LaMotta - 6 times

[ADP02]

A fifth fight is completely pointless and a blatant money grab. The rivalry is over. Done. Finished. There was a fight with a definitive ending. It's bad for boxing to make a fifth fight because it gets in the way of new, original matchups. And if they make a fifth fight, how much is enough? Seven? Ten? At what point does a rivalry end?

In many sports, a rivalry never ends. I guess you are not much a sports guy except for boxing? Just asking .....

[MBE]

Marquez/Bradley had the same testing as Pacquiao/Bradley II. They used a stricter version of the NSAC testing. The testing used WADA testers, facilities and regulations.

Also, it doesn't matter if they use VADA, USADA or NSAC's extensive testing there will still be scrutiny. They won't be tested year round so the added testing won't be as effective.

I don't have the time to drag everything up but I'm pretty sure Bradley wanted a certain commission to handle the drug testing for the Marquez fight and marquez's team vetoed that decision. The only difference between the two were that the one Bradley requested included blood isotope testing.

Convicted drug cheat chemist victor conte explains about it's importance when looking at baseball:

'"They need to implement the Carbon Isotope Ratio test for testosterone randomly," Conte said. "Currently a player can go home or to the hotel after a game, use a testosterone cream, gel or patch, and it will be undetectable by the time he goes to the ballpark the next day. The CIR test can detect it for up to two weeks.'

Source: http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports...eason/1824005/

This type of test that Bradley originally wanted is what all fighters should do. There is no reason why not to go through with CIR tests it doesn't require anything extra and is the most full proof method to catch known cheats. What does Marquez have to hide?

[Public_Enemy]

I don't have the time to drag everything up but I'm pretty sure Bradley wanted a certain commission to handle the drug testing for the Marquez fight and marquez's team vetoed that decision. The only difference between the two were that the one Bradley requested included blood isotope testing.

Convicted drug cheat chemist victor conte explains about it's importance when looking at baseball:

'"They need to implement the Carbon Isotope Ratio test for testosterone randomly," Conte said. "Currently a player can go home or to the hotel after a game, use a testosterone cream, gel or patch, and it will be undetectable by the time he goes to the ballpark the next day. The CIR test can detect it for up to two weeks.'

Source: http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports...eason/1824005/

This type of test that Bradley originally wanted is what all fighters should do. There is no reason why not to go through with CIR tests it doesn't require anything extra and is the most full proof method to catch known cheats. What does Marquez have to hide?

Marquez/Bradley had that. Marquez didn't want to use VADA. Arum came up with an alternative that tested for everything VADA tests for.