Martinez: "Chavez was never gonna fight Golovkin"

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  • Chiboxing123
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    #21
    Originally posted by Divine Hammer
    there is a reason why chavez jr is asking for more money. it's the same with stevenson and mikey. all these guys are scared to fight and the only thing that will motivate them is millions of more dollars.
    This is true

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    • MurkaMan
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      #22
      Originally posted by DoktorSleepless
      He turned down 17 million dollars for two fights this year. Now he's now going to fight once this year for probably $2.5M and likely sit out most of 2015 . That's not being a smart businessman. And I'm going to laugh when he loses against whatever journeyman he fights next and whatever Haymon offer he had goes down the drain.


      He wasn't signing his life away. It was for only one freaken fight.
      No he turned down an extension. He didnt want to extend any kind of business relationship with them, and now he will probably fight a bum, get out of the contract, then go fight GGG.

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      • Evol
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        #23
        Originally posted by LarryXXX
        It wasn't about the money, he did not want to sign an extension.
        actually he was presented with 2 offers. one with an extension and the other without it. he declined both.

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          #24
          Originally posted by MurkaMan
          No he turned down an extension. He didnt want to extend any kind of business relationship with them, and now he will probably fight a bum, get out of the contract, then go fight GGG.
          no, he was presented with 2 offers. one with an extension and the other one without it. he feels the one without the extension is still not what he's worth so he declined. stop making excuses to protect fighters who doesnt wanna challege themselves.

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            #25
            Originally posted by Truth.
            Gotta love Maravilla.

            Everyone with a brain knows that GGG beats Maravilla now. I don't usually condone ducking, but Maravilla is near the end of his career now, he can get away with cherry-picking his last couple of opponents.
            But GGG still needs to fight Martinez to be the lineal champion.

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              #26
              Originally posted by Victorious713
              LOL are you his accoutant? How do you know TR didn't give him a really good offer than he wouldn't have got from golden boy? Tim said himself he might retire with Top Rank. Seems fine with his pay. Its not like Tim is a draw. Other than a Mayweather fight, there isn't that much to be made there. His purses would have been smaller with Golden Boy. Why? HBO can pay more since they are the bigger network and has more viewers. Any purse he gets from SHO/GBP will likely have to be split between the co or triple main eventers because GBP doesn't have lots of dates and SHO can only spend so much on boxing. Which is why they stack their cards.

              If we are just talking strictly business, since you called him a dumb businessman, staying with TR is the better business move. He is not making the money he made in the Pacman fight, anywhere else. Same with Chavez. The only other promotion that is worth a damn and actually promote fights and fatten fighters pockets, is Golden Boy. And we know he isn't going to Golden Boy. Where else can he go where he will be properly promoted to maximize his earnings? 50 Cent going to do that for him? TMT? LOL
              From what I know TR STILL hasnt given him money they promised him, and he got less this time around because he let his idiot wife negotiate for him. He would have gotten WAAAY more money to fight Garcia, Khan, Broner, Lucas etc. So many top tier fighter, rather then one pay day vs Pac, then a bunch of bum fights with Rios and Alvarado.

              Not only that, but its not even about the money. Bradley will NEVER fight any top tier ww's now. He is stuck with a faded Pacman and a JMM rematch. And we all know Bradley wasnt happy with TR.

              He was complaining the whole time. At the last minute, Arum manipulated his dumbazz with that extension and he fell for it like a fool.

              Five fights with all of the top level ww's at Gb would equate to more than enough in comparison to one money fight with Pacman. An YES Bradley would have went to gb. He is the number 2 ww, OBVIOUSLY they would love him. Number 2 ww holding the division hostage, by staying with TR. He will NEVER fight Broner, Lucas, Floyd, Marcos, Ghost. NEVER. He will fight Pac AGAIN, JMM AGAIN. Meaningless rematches, and this ppv was a flop. He didnt get paid correctly in the rematch, and will get paid even less in the 3rd, 4th, 5th, 6th, and 7th Pac and JMM fights LOL

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                #27
                Originally posted by Victorious713
                LOL are you his accoutant? How do you know TR didn't give him a really good offer than he wouldn't have got from golden boy? Tim said himself he might retire with Top Rank. Seems fine with his pay. Its not like Tim is a draw. Other than a Mayweather fight, there isn't that much to be made there. His purses would have been smaller with Golden Boy. Why? HBO can pay more since they are the bigger network and has more viewers. Any purse he gets from SHO/GBP will likely have to be split between the co or triple main eventers because GBP doesn't have lots of dates and SHO can only spend so much on boxing. Which is why they stack their cards.

                If we are just talking strictly business, since you called him a dumb businessman, staying with TR is the better business move. He is not making the money he made in the Pacman fight, anywhere else. Same with Chavez. The only other promotion that is worth a damn and actually promote fights and fatten fighters pockets, is Golden Boy. And we know he isn't going to Golden Boy. Where else can he go where he will be properly promoted to maximize his earnings? 50 Cent going to do that for him? TMT? LOL
                And btw, I love the sig of Pac trying to copy Floyd. Pac fans used to pretend that Pac was making fun of Floyd in that. He actually use to look up to Floyd and admitted it. Until Floyd gave him to big f-u. I forgot about that sig lol

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by Evol
                  no, he was presented with 2 offers. one with an extension and the other one without it. he feels the one without the extension is still not what he's worth so he declined. stop making excuses to protect fighters who doesnt wanna challege themselves.
                  Chavez doesnt give a crap about challenging himself. He just gets bored fighting meaningless fights. Im not even a Chavez fan dummy. Im just not going out of my way to hate on this fighter and that fighter. He didnt want any type of extension and the one without the extension they were giving him what? 5 million less? I read that article on yahoo but I forgot the details.

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by MurkaMan
                    And btw, I love the sig of Pac trying to copy Floyd. Pac fans used to pretend that Pac was making fun of Floyd in that. He actually use to look up to Floyd and admitted it. Until Floyd gave him to big f-u. I forgot about that sig lol
                    thats funny because in pac's earlier days i have yet to hear him mention anything about floyd, or that he looks up to him. but floyd on the other hand was caught at a pac fight cheering for manny and floyd also stated in one of the older videos that manny is #2 p4p lmao! wonder what changes all that? LOL

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by MurkaMan
                      Chavez doesnt give a crap about challenging himself. He just gets bored fighting meaningless fights. Im not even a Chavez fan dummy. Im just not going out of my way to hate on this fighter and that fighter. He didnt want any type of extension and the one without the extension they were giving him what? 5 million less? I read that article on yahoo but I forgot the details.
                      meaningless fights?? umm he decline a fight with ggg. and of course he's gonna get way less if he choose to walk after his contract is over. wtf?? was he suppose to get just as much as the extension? if so, then whats the point of even offering the extension then lmao!

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