Why do people pretend Wladimir is an ATG?

[BluesMan]

OP...seek help.

[sugarsmosley]

You can only beat the best in your era, and nobody can say Wlad hasn't done that.

that would be his own brother vitali

[VG_Addict]

What are some flaws in Wlad's game? I noticed he has no inside game whatsoever.

[GhostBlade]

Wlad is way better than Pulev and no way he loses. The man has been champ for 10 years. He should be considered an all-time great because I'm sure he would put up a good fight and beat many legends from the past. Styles make fights and Wlad is a powerful tactician and boxer.

[Dyna chb]

Wlad is way better than Pulev and no way he loses. The man has been champ for 10 years. He should be considered an all-time great because I'm sure he would put up a good fight and beat many legends from the past. Styles make fights and Wlad is a powerful tactician and boxer.

Champ for 10 years because he let his brother take on the stylistically tougher men.

Ross Purrity gets to Wlad's chin, let big bro "avenge" the defeat
Corrie Sanders gets to Wlad's chin, let big bro "avenge" the defeat... again.
Chisora spits in Wlad's face, Wlad licks it up like a *** and lets big bro do the fighting.
Pulev is mandatory, Wlad directly wants the stylistically easier Stiverne.

He avenged the Brewster defeat but only against an extremely past it Brewster blind in one eye.
And didn't Chagaev have a hepatites, he's just beating up sick men.
Pienata was a cancer patient for gods sake.

[Divine Hammer]

i don't pretend.

i know it in my heart that when all is said and done wlad will look much better than floyd and pacquiao.

he is the real #1 p4p, but i think because of american politics he is kept low.

[New England]

it's the era.

wladimir's in the worst era in the sport's history. the guys are fat, and largely void of talent. the two best fighters were brothers, and never fought. the division has never looked like this.


the best large athletes, americans, don't box any longer. that's the important part, of course. this sport is about talent. at HW that means size, chin, and punching power. speed obviously helps, but none of these 250 lb monsters are going to be on their toes all night.




that said, wladimir is a top 20 HW all time. he's been champion forever, fought most of his contenders.

[VG_Addict]

i don't pretend.

i know it in my heart that when all is said and done wlad will look much better than floyd and pacquiao.

he is the real #1 p4p, but i think because of american politics he is kept low.

LOL @ Wlad being #1 P4P.

Floyd is the clear P4P king. He has been since he beat De la Hoya. It has nothing to do with politics. Floyd has beaten better opponents, and captured titles in more weight classes.

[New England]

What are some flaws in Wlad's game? I noticed he has no inside game whatsoever.

his chin is crap.


who cares if you can't fight inside when you're that tall and strong? you can clinch. why would he fight inside when he's built like that?

[WilkinsOlajuwon]

it's the era.

wladimir's in the worst era in the sport's history. the guys are fat, and largely void of talent. the two best fighters were brothers, and never fought. the division has never looked like this.


the best large athletes, americans, don't box any longer. that's the important part, of course. this sport is about talent. at HW that means size, chin, and punching power. speed obviously helps, but none of these 250 lb monsters are going to be on their toes all night.

that said, wladimir is a top 20 HW all time. he's been champion forever, fought most of his contenders.

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