Why is Wlad not P4P number 1

[slimshandy69]

Because Wlad relies a ton on his size advantage and P4P takes that out of the equation. He is probably the most size reliant top end fighter so that hurts in a P4P discussion.

Also he is stuck with terrible opposition so he can't really prove much of anything at the moment other than he is the best heavy.

Floyd has catch weights, removes peoples gloves, Makes light eights move up to welter, only fights in vegas has a reach advantage over all his fighters yet still had lost 3 of his 46 fights.

he just doesn't dominate like Wlad does....

[JDD1]

how does he win more than 12 rounds in a 12 round fight?

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If you say so. fortunately those who vote in legitimate p4p polls are not as insanely ******ed as you appear in this thread.

Carry on.

[The Gambler1981]

Floyd has catch weights, removes peoples gloves, Makes light eights move up to welter, only fights in vegas has a reach advantage over all his fighters yet still had lost 3 of his 46 fights.

he just doesn't dominate like Wlad does....

I had typed out a serious response then I just laughed and deleted it because what does that really have to do with what I said.

Unless you are calling Floyd a big welterweight when he has been the bigger man in 1 fight (JMM), but what does that have to do with Wlad vastly out sizing almost everyone he fights.

[beez721]

Not only does he win more than 12 rounds or knocks his opponets out. Floyd only marginally losses, or wins by a majority decision against opponents he has a reach advantage over.

Andre ward has done f all in the last year, and is still doing f all. I have froch above him the p4p.

Heres my top ten

Wlad
GGG
Floyd
Froch
ward
Sergey Kovalev
Mattyse
Martinez
Manny pac
danny garcia

he arguably could be. lp4lp is pretty much just the best fighters regardless of weight and nobody has dominated as much as wlad over the last 10 years. I have him in the top 4 for sure

[slimshandy69]

But Wlad dint get touched by lepai, povetkin etc, Floyd is taking to many shots against b level/Past prime fighters.

Hes just doesn't have boxing craft of Wald. no shame in that

[ATG_Vespasian]

Obvious troll thread

[beez721]

Because Wlad relies a ton on his size advantage and P4P takes that out of the equation. He is probably the most size reliant top end fighter so that hurts in a P4P discussion.

Also he is stuck with terrible opposition so he can't really prove much of anything at the moment other than he is the best heavy.

never agreed with that size advantage deal. hes dominated many fighters that were as tall and or heavier than him. mccline,,,jefferson,,,wach,,,wolfgramm,,,monroe,,a ustin etc. hes very quick for such a big man and if he was much smaller hed probably be lightning like quick. so that size excuse is a bunch of bs. being that big can hurt or help you and wlad knows how to maximize it. hed also maximize it if he were smaller in other ways im sure

[slimshandy69]

Obvious troll thread

it honestly isn't.

[The Gambler1981]

never agreed with that size advantage deal. hes dominated many fighters that were as tall and or heavier than him. mccline,,,jefferson,,,wach,,,wolfgramm,,,monroe,,a ustin etc. hes very quick for such a big man and if he was much smaller hed probably be lightning like quick. so that size excuse is a bunch of bs. being that big can hurt or help you and wlad knows how to maximize it. hed also maximize it if he were smaller in other ways im sure

The guys he has fought close to his size are all like Wach, not very good. Now that is not exactly Wlad's fault because there are just less large talented men.

Wlad is a talented large man which is why he is what he is and he knows how to use that.

It creates a huge match-up problem, because he is quicker and better skilled than the bigger guys, but he out sizes the guys that could match him better in those attributes. Size plays a huge role for him that I don't think you can separate him from and say with great certainty he would still be an excellent fighter.

[beez721]

The guys he has fought close to his size are all like Wach, not very good. Now that is not exactly Wlad's fault because there are just less large talented men.

Wlad is a talented large man which is why he is what he is and he knows how to use that.

It creates a huge match-up problem, because he is quicker and better skilled than the bigger guys, but he out sizes the guys that could match him better in those attributes. Size plays a huge role for him that I don't think you can separate him from and say with great certainty he would still be an excellent fighter.

I get what youre saying but I just think all that size can also be a detriment. moving all that length and weight around. thats part of the reason most heavies his size just arent very good or coordinated. I think hed be a different type of fighter if he was a small to medium sized heavyweight. hed maximize it in a different way. but anyway,,,its all conjecture. I can see arguments against it