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  • -Kev-
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    #1

    How can a fighter get battered, knocked down and destroyed for 1 round and...

    Still get 8 points?

    I know, the 10 point must system. It's a whack system and I think it's outdated. How can you give 8 points to a fighter who was knocked down and lost every second of the round? 8 points for what? For losing?

    I am not talking about a particular fight, so nobody get the wrong idea, I am speaking in general.

    For example, how can you realistically give Jeff Lacy 9 points in any round vs Calzaghe? 9 points for what!? What did he do? It wasn't for landing punches, let alone...anything else.

    How is it that boxing blowouts are typically 120-108, looks like a basketball game. Okay, how you get blown out all 12 rounds, but end up with 108 points? 108 points from where, the judges ass?

    I just had to let that out. I know this thread is not part of the NSB theme to talk about May, Pac, their respective opponents, Broner, Floyd fans, Pac fans. I just think it's an interesting discussion.
  • bojangles1987
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    #2
    You don't have to score it that way if you don't think you should. If a guy gets knocked down and destroyed in a way that would have gotten them 10-8 without the knockdown, you could score it 10-7.

    Sounds like your problem is with awarding points at all to guys who do nothing. Can't tell you why the scoring ended up that way, I just know that's how it is. Wlad/Leapai is a good example of that, there's literally nothing Leapai did from round 2 on that was worth rewarding.

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    • The_Demon
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      #3
      Question is how low do you go-10-6,10-5?

      I don't think the system is too bad,but I see what you're saying

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      • The Gambler1981
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        #4
        Boxing scoring is pretty whack, there is not enough separation between a round a guy sc****s by and a round a guy damn near beat someone to death which is pretty much what you have to do to even consider giving a 10-8 round without a knockdown.

        I always liked the idea of half points can give a lot more separation.

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        • Funky_Monk
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          #5
          Originally posted by The Gambler1981
          Boxing scoring is pretty whack, there is not enough separation between a round a guy sc****s by and a round a guy damn near beat someone to death which is pretty much what you have to do to even consider giving a 10-8 round without a knockdown.

          I always liked the idea of half points can give a lot more separation.
          Do you honestly think separation would help?

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          • Loque-san
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            #6
            You want a fighter to be down by 3-4(??) points just because he got beaten up in a round?

            Boxers are not rewarded with points. Both men start every round at 10-10, the loser of the round loses 1 point, and if he gets dropped he loses an additional point. There are rules, 8 or 9 are not numbers coming out of nowhere.

            A boxer who has done nothing the whole round is not winning 9 points, he's getting 1 point deducted. This is a penalty, not a reward.

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            • sugarsmosley
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              #7
              just score the rounds. u could say calz won 12-0

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              • Beercules
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                #8
                That's a good question. 8 points for trying? I really don't know.

                When was the last time a 10-7 round was scored? Maybe if the guy gets knocked down and then lands a low blow and gets a point deducted?

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                • The Gambler1981
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Funky_Monk
                  Do you honestly think separation would help?

                  Couldn't hurt it removes a huge flaw of boxing scoring the general public doesn't really get. To a normal viewer you watch 2 rounds one guy beat the other dude bad but not 10-8 bad and the other guy barely wins the next round, it should be 19-19 but the average viewer will feel the guy that put a beating on the other is ahead and with half points you could get 19.5-18.5 which is probably more in line with what average people would be thinking.


                  The same problems would still exist with judges and fans seeing different fights but I think it would be a solid change for the better that would at least at the margin close the gap.

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                  • bojangles1987
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                    #10
                    I thought for a moment if things would be better without 10 point must, but then it would easier for corrupt or inept judges to screw fighters over if they could choose whether to reward 7 or 8 or 9 points.

                    Weird as it is, the current system is probably the best way to score a fight.

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