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  • #21
    Originally posted by Opinionated View Post
    Matthysse did the booty dew against Garcia doe.
    No actually that never happened, unless the Booty Dew looks like someone taking a knee? Never once was buckled in that fight. Battered yes, not buckled.

    Originally posted by dc3383 View Post
    Lucas wouldn't have belt right now regardless since he lost to Danny.
    That's not the point of this thread, the point is boxing politics has prevented Mathysse from ever being world champion, and prevented Herrera from getting his win and his championship belts that Danny boy is keeping warm for him right now.

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    • #22
      Matthysse wanted the fight with Pederson at 141 so that his shot at Danny Garcia wouldn't be at risk.

      In the end it's his fault that he didn't pick up the IBF belt when he beat Lamont.

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      • #23
        Originally posted by ShoulderRoll View Post
        Matthysse wanted the fight with Pederson at 141 so that his shot at Danny Garcia wouldn't be at risk.

        In the end it's his fault that he didn't pick up the IBF belt when he beat Lamont.
        Yeah, the boxing politics put him in a position to not fight for the IBF strap, thus not picking it up in his win against Lamont. Had he not been in that position due to boxing politics, he would have won his first world title, whether it's his fault or not is not relevant, at all.

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        • #24
          Originally posted by SeekDaGreat View Post
          Yeah, the boxing politics put him in a position to not fight for the IBF strap, thus not picking it up in his win against Lamont. Had he not been in that position due to boxing politics, he would have won his first world title, whether it's his fault or not is not relevant, at all.
          Truth of the matter is he could have got the IBF title and vacated it; they was going to make the winner of Lucas vs Peterson against Danny Garcia regardless. If lamont had won he was getting Danny which was the entire reason he was there.

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          • #25
            It wasn't set in stone, if you remember, after Matthysse won, Danny all of a sudden wanted more money for the fight, something he wouldn't have asked for if Pederson would've won - which delayed the signing and fulled the ducking claims.

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            • #26
              It wasn't boxing politics that put Matthysse in that position. He's the one that made the choice, he easily could have agreed to give up his interim belt and fight for Peterson's.

              Golden Boy still would have matched him with Danny Garcia anyway when he won.

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              • #27
                Garcia vs Matthyse was a much more marquee match-up than it would vs Peterson which would warrant more money.

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                • #28
                  Originally posted by dc3383 View Post
                  Garcia vs Matthyse was a much more marquee match-up than it would vs Peterson which would warrant more money.
                  No it wasn't. Only hardcore fans knew of the fight.

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                  • #29
                    Originally posted by SeekDaGreat View Post
                    No actually that never happened, unless the Booty Dew looks like someone taking a knee? Never once was buckled in that fight. Battered yes, not buckled.



                    That's not the point of this thread, the point is boxing politics has prevented Mathysse from ever being world champion, and prevented Herrera from getting his win and his championship belts that Danny boy is keeping warm for him right now.
                    That's weird, cause I remember a Lucas vs Danny fight on the undercard of Floyd vs Canelo, maybe my memory is off, ever huh?

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                    • #30
                      Originally posted by Foreign Soil View Post
                      No it wasn't. Only hardcore fans knew of the fight.
                      Garcia vs Peterson wouldn't have been the co main event to Mayweather vs Canelo; that fight pushed to event to over 2 mil PPV sold.

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